OCISA selects candidate to fight for ‘Labour leader’s seat at next parliamentary election
The OCISA group formed with the aim of ousting so-called ‘Labour leader’ Keir Starmer has selected Corruption Watch UK director Andrew Feinstein, a Jewish former South African MP and adviser to Nelson Mandela, to stand against Starmer in Holborn and St Pancras in the next general election. Feinstein now lives in the seat.
Feinstein. the son of Holocaust survivors, has a long record of substance and principle that stands in stark contrast to his ‘broken every promise’ opponent, who is known as a ‘long-time servant of the security state’ and became known as the ‘kid starver’ after breaking promises to end the hated ‘universal credit’ benefit system and saying he would not end Tory benefit cuts that have put hundreds of thousands of children into poverty and hunger.
Feinstein has also consistently stood against Israel’s apartheid and genocide in Gaza, arguing that the same tactics his ANC party in South Africa used to bring down apartheid there must be used against Israel and pointing his social media followers to information about Israel’s slaughter of innocents. Starmer, in contrast, has said Israel has the ‘right’ even to impose the blockade on Gaza that is causing horrific starvation and disease.
Despite Labour’s significant majority in previous elections in the seat, the candidacy of someone with such substance and track record must be seen as a threat to Starmer’s position, particularly in a seat where one in six voters are Muslims and even more so in the light of South Africa’s leading role in the fight against the Gaza genocide – and soon against the UK’s complicity. The campaign is likely to be supported by large numbers of people from the constituency and around the UK, who are outraged at Starmer’s complicity in genocide and his abetting of the Tories’ assault on our rights and freedoms in the UK.
Starmer and his team are said to be ‘raging’ at the news and deeply concerned:
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Outstandingly good news for once. This is a moment for the ages. The possible prospect of a Labour minority government taking power with no leader is one to savour!
Go. Andrew, go!!!
Or just another lost deposit?
That’s not nice to Starmer is it now? Wishing away his seat and here was me thinking you supported the Zionists without qualification. Hay ho it’s a strange world we’re living in where paid shills are turning on the boss.
Ah, the resident ‘defender of democracy’ , sneering at Holborn & St Pancras being given an alternative to the establishment’s elitist-monopolising, smarmerist cabal.
Anyone’d think you don’t want any opposition, certainly not to keef….who’s (both personally and politically) universally regarded as being dead popular…
Christ, but you’re as original as sin. 😕
Toffee – What competition?
The left have a long history of losing their deposits in general elections.
I do not think that Starmer will lose his deposit.
Tony – Whoopee, you’re almost as clever as you think you are🙄
Bit like your record of losing arguments you instigate then, innit?
Toffee – Really?
Could you provide some examples along with direct quotes and links?
I wonder, can you be Prime Minister, or indeed Leader of the Labour party, if you’re not an MP? I have a feeling there is some precedent where some 19th Century aristocrat(s) have been in No 10, but not sure if the law’s been tightened.
Does anyone know the rules surrounding this?
In the post-modernist context in which ‘the rules’ – whatever they may be at any one time – are applied or not depending upon convenience according to ‘the rules based order’ it seems reasonable to observe that the present UK Foreign Secretary is not a Member of Parliament in the House of Commons but resides in the House of Lords.
An elevation specifically made in order to fit that particular individual to that specific role.
In the event of the very obvious Establishment shoe in Herr Starmer not being re-elected as an MP in the Commons – assuming the nominally red wing of the Uni-party cobble up enough seats to form a ‘Government’ – I doubt the bookies would even bother offering odds against this popinjay finding himself in the Lords by at the very latest lunchtime the day after the polls close.
Assuming, of course, that an election is actually held.
timfrom – Labour Party Rule Book
“Chapter 1 – Clause VII.
Party officers and statutory officers
1. Party officers
A. Leader and deputy leader
i. There shall be a leader and deputy leader of
the Party who shall, ex-officio, be leader and
deputy leader of the PLP.
ii. The leader and deputy leader of the Party
shall be elected or re-elected from among
Commons members of the PLP in
accordance with procedural rule Chapter 4
Clause II below, at a Party conference
convened in accordance with clause VI
above. In respect to the election of the
leader and deputy leader, the standing
orders of the PLP shall always automatically
be brought into line with these rules
It says Daz on the side of buses but they don’t sell soap powder.
As with much else in Borrell’s ‘Garden’ the Labour Party Rule book is full of rules which are interpreted applied or not, or even ignored to suit the convenience of various bureaucracies.
Quoting rules gets us nowhere when they are very obviously quoted for the specific purpose of ignoring the context in which they operate.
Larry Johnson……..
https://sonar21.com/bad-assumptions-bad-results-by-helmholtz-smith/
…….hits the nail on the head with this pithy summary:
“If you start with imaginary assumptions, you’ll get imaginary results.”
Fits you to a T Billy boy.
Dave – timfrom asked “Does anyone know the rules surrounding this?”
……and I replied with the relevant info.
The words are the words Billy and what timfrom actually wrote was:
“I wonder, can you be Prime Minister, or indeed Leader of the Labour party, if you’re not an MP? I have a feeling there is some precedent where some 19th Century aristocrat(s) have been in No 10, but not sure if the law’s been tightened.
Does anyone know the rules surrounding this?”
In plain English timfrom stated he was not sure on what the LAW of the land is on this matter. His question regarding the rules was therefore clearly in the context of the legal position in terms of electoral law. Not in terms of the rule book of a particular political party.
Which is an entirely different question to the one he actually asked.
Do try and pay attention at the back.
Dave – What’s your problem, are you bored and lonely?
I’ll take that as your version of a ‘graceful and dignified’ conceding of the point, Billy, and Toffee can add it to the list of arguments you have instigated and run away from.
Andrew has integrity and is intensely popular. He will win im sure. Steve is just fummin cos he knows it. No more genocide.
This is NOT a Muslim issue, its a challenge to our humanity, there will be support across the board
How many of us were brought up to say ‘Never Again’ this is a straight forward fight between the Fascists and the rest of civilisation
All of a sudden there are consequences
“this is a straight forward fight between the Fascists and the rest of civilisation”
Indeed it is. And it is a straightforward enough task to determine which side of that line anyone happens to have positioned themselves by choice simply by reference to their utterances and what they have written.
No matter where they (allegedly) reside.
Feinstein In! Starmer Out!
Could be quite a crop of Left Independents – Corbyn, Dent, one Liverpool Community Independent, Leanne Mohammed (Redbridge), Claudia Webbe, George Galloway & possibly more to come (are a few other Left MPs who have been suspended) so there could be a small left wing Democratic Socialist Bloc in the Commons but if Jeremy Corbyn set up a new party or we had Peace & Justice as a party it would have hundreds of thousands of members + millions in the bank to campaign with & we could have a bigger bloc.
But if he won’t then the cavalry is not coming & we have to become the cavalry ourselves with 620 JC supporting Independents or 620 Pro-Palestine Pro Diverse Working Class/Progressive Middle Class candidates. But we shouldn’t stand against the few good Lab Left MPs.
Right Wing Lightweight Lab are devoid of vision whilst the Left bursts with it.
Let’s fight for a Left Wing Democratic Socialist Society to end poverty & have a foreign policy based on peace & co-operation. Permanent Ceasefire in Gaza now & Justice for Palestinians.
Bazza – How sure are you that Jeremy Corbyn will stand at the next general election, why would he take the risk?
ps – Follow the link for a full list of the Labour MPs who have been suspended
https://labourlist.org/2024/01/suspended-expelled-quit-who-are-the-mps-sitting-without-the-labour-whip/
The sky is black with the wings of chickens coming home to roost
Every member of the Labour party in the Fuhreres seat must make the not of this opportunity to bring the Red Tories down, maximum publicity for every resignation and support for Andrew Feinstein
Doug – You’re deluded.
Herr Flick
Time for a number of ‘what if’ scenarios for the Fuhrer
In the current circumstances and the Fascists utter contempt for the electorate, all the Ingradients are there for a monumental upset
Andrew Feinstein is a serious threat, with a first class record in fighting Apartheid and racism the world over, some issues are universal
Every other day, the finest kind of people are standing up to be counted
For the Red Tories ‘things can only get bitter’
Doug, it must be most gratifying for you to receive such an accolade from the acknowledged expert in that particular field.
Dave – ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dave
The acronym DILLIGAF springs to mind
timfrom – I came across this
It used to be relatively common for lords to be prime minister, especially during the 18th and 19th centuries, and there is nothing technically preventing that in the current era: the Ministerial Code only states that you must be either in the Lords or the Commons to be a government minister.
However, it is highly unlikely a lord will be prime minister again. This is because lords are not democratically elected, and the public would probably not take kindly to a leader who has not at least been voted into the Commons.
The last peer to be made prime minister was Alec Douglas-Home in 1963, who was also the last prime minister to be directly appointed by the monarch. He resigned his seat in the Lords to run in a House of Commons by-election.
https://link.news.inews.co.uk/view/6317929b5c4ba909ce0655a7kfmsd.rhz/42f83f5a
9:05 pm is a bit early to be going to bed Billy. I take it the Squadron bar was shut last night.
It would be glorious if tammer lost his seat.