Party blames factionalism for decision to prevent members meeting or voting
Keir Starmer’s Labour regime has suspended Leicester East constituency Labour party (CLP), blaming the decision on a complaint that meetings were being ‘organised to support a particular faction’. The party has removed all the CLP’s elected officers from their positions. The CLP chair said she had not been informed of the decision before the story broke in the media, however members have now received the following:
At the same time, disgraced former MP Keith Vaz – whom the party has still allowed to run (disastrously) its campaigns in the city despite his record of offering to buy drugs for ‘rent boys’ and a finding of ‘sustained bullying’ against him – has ramped up his own campaigning in a large leaflet distributed locally:
The Starmer regime has a long record of suspending CLPs for what members say is to clear the way in selections for Starmer’s preferred candidates or to protect disgraced party figures or prevent scrutiny.
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Interesting, I wonder if Keith Vaz is considering coming back as the official Labour candidate, since Claudia Webbe has been expelled from the Labour Party?
Maria Vazquez
No doubt you are right.
Dare say that Robbing Hood and his merry gang of perverts would relish the prospect of the return of a principled defender of the rich to their band of brigands.
Yet another CLP suspended for trying to ask questions or address issues the leader doesn’t like. I bet the facebook group started about 6 months ago to Unseat Starmer already has more than the 5,000 members it expected?
Keith Vaz.was elected as the chairman of the Leicester East constituency Labour Party (CLP) in January 2020. I’ve also heard that the reason that Labour deselected 19 sitting Labour councillors in Leicester (04/23) was in large part because they were members of a factional cabal run by Vaz
Interesting. Please provide the link.
goldbach – The link to what?
I’ve also heard that the reason that Labour deselected 19 sitting Labour councillors in Leicester (04/23) was in large part because they were members of a factional cabal run by Vaz
goldbach – “I’ve also heard that the reason that Labour deselected 19 sitting Labour councillors in Leicester (04/23) was in large part because they were members of a factional cabal run by Vaz”
The reason that I had to ask what you wanted a link to is that I thought that I’d already made it quite clear that this was here-say. I heard this from a friend that I spoke to at the time who is a Labour member and lives in Leicester. I may not be able to provide a link but it is undeniable that it provides a very reasonable explanation for what has happened then and now.
Are you misguidedly trying to defend Keith Vaz?
Twerp – your usual deliberate misinterpretation of anything anyone writes.
We’ll have to agree to disagree.
goldbach – What are we supposedly agreeing to disagree about? 😕
“The reason that I had to ask what you wanted a link to is that I thought that I’d already made it quite clear that this was here-say. I heard this from a friend that I spoke to at the time who is a Labour member and lives in Leicester. I may not be able to provide a link but it is undeniable that it provides a very reasonable explanation for what has happened then and now.”
And therein lies the problem right there.
The confirmation bias of what has already been conceded to be nothing more than unsubstantiated hearsay being promoted as a ‘reasonable explanation’ with no concrete evidence to back up the assertion. Yet another in a long line of examples of pre-assuming what one aims to deduce in order verify a conclusion already arrived at.
This has about as much validity as arguing the world is flat on the basis of what some random geezer told you in the pub.
The entire edifice of the Junta – from the absence of any recognisible due process standards and principles through to the voodoo economics and exceptionalism – rests on such incompetent and unworkable quicksand.
Which is why anyone serious about doing the business rather than a bodge job is effectively on strike against thie efficacy free nonsense passing as grown up politics.
Is that the word on the beach? Hearsay unless you would be kind enough to point us in the direction of an article or vid or web site. I would appreciate that SteveH. Thank you. Labour’s night of the long knives ?
After reading Oliver Eagelton’s book The Starmer Project, it is difficult to discern what Starmerfuhrer will do next. His record of making a statement/stand on an issue then exiting stage right and declaring a new statement/stand mystifies all belief and trust in him and that he will always be a Shadow Warrior for the Zionists, whose interests he has at heart, over and above his duty to his constituents and as LOTO.
An everyday tale of centrist Labour where CLPs are suspended for simply wanting to ask about, or comment on, issues that the leader doesn’t want….
Is Claudia going to contest Leicester East at the next general election, anyone know? Today’s suspension of Leicester E CLP is possibly connected to that? Would Starmer be foolish enough to let an automatically de-selected MP stand again as a Labour PPC?
qwertboi – Don’t you think that this might have had some influence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Vaz#After_Parliament
[Keith Vaz] was elected chairman of the Leicester East constituency Labour Party (CLP) in January 2020
The Labour Party Rule book requires that Party Units hold elections for Party Unit Officers annually – ie every twelve months.
Unless Keith Vaz was re-elected chair of the CLP in 2021, 2022, and 2023 the information that he was elected chair in 2020 has about as much relevance to the situation today – in the fag end of 2023 – as me claiming to represent my employer on the basis that I worked for them in 2014 (the year I retired).
This kind of sloppy incompetent approach – which everyday experience and observation demonstrates is endemic throughout the Junta – is why more and more grown ups are rolling their eyes and voting with their feet.
I, sincerely, hope she does contest Leicester East, as an Independent.
*Chuckle!*
‘…following concerns about the operation of the CLP.’
Far too socialist.
‘We’re ‘aving none o’ that damned socialism ‘ere, in this CLP.’
George – It’s a little difficult to see how you’ve arrived at that conclution, Keith Vaz was the elected Chair of the Leicester East’s CLP.
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/police-investigate-alleged-assault-leicester-3743850 (Jan2020)
“More than 150 party members attended the meeting where former Leicester East MP Keith Vaz was elected chairman of the constituency Labour party (CLP) by a show of hands.
Current Leicester East MP Claudia Webbe was not present and it is understood she was not made aware of the meeting until a short time beforehand.
CLP meetings in Leicester have traditionally been held on Thursday or Friday evenings when MPs have returned to their constituencies after a week in Westminster.
It is unusual to hold them in the absence of an MP.
Ms Webbe succeeded Mr Vaz as Labour candidate for Leicester East before December’s election.
Oh, do p*ss off, you pillock.
Meantime, in the same Region, not a cock-stride from Leicester East, this is what’s happening. Blackfriars Labour continue their Grand Larceny of hard-working, Real Labour CLP’s :
In a context in which elections for the position of CLP Chair are held every twelve months under Party Rules just what relevance does an election held nearly three and half years ago have to today?
Is Keith Vaz still the CLP Chair? Was he elected or not elected as CLP Chair this year? {Spoiler: 2023.]
Nerve to brain cell! Come in! Knock! Knock! Is there anybody there?
Jesus wept! Its like trying to educate a dead pig.
Somebody put the goat on the line. We might get more sense.
Rather like Brecht’s joke about the government abolishing the people. But the harder you push down on a spring the more powerfully it recoils. Starmer is making the classic mistake of trying to re-run history. But this isn’t 1996. Corbyn was leader. 12.8 million did vote for him. By believing he can bring Blairism to life Starmer risks losing millions of votes. Independents are popping up. CLPs are in revolt. If he wins it will be Pyrrhic.
Frank – That may well have been the case in 2017 but by the time we reached the 2019 election Corbyn had lost 2,608,867 of those votes + 20% of the membership had deserted him + for the first time ever more members of the working class voted Tory than voted for Labour (by a very substantial 15%). Labour was only saved from almost total annihilation by its middle class voters (there were more of them than their working class voters)
…and, still, polled more than ‘Red’ Ed, in 2015, Broon of the Manse, in 2010, and even Mr Tony, in 2005.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/Labour%20Elex%201997-2019%202.png
*From an impeccable source.*
To substantiate George Peel’s contribution:
These are the LP figures this century following the first four years of continuity Conservatism under Blairism/New Labour (1997-2001); along with the number of eligible electors and percentage of eligible electors not voting/spoiling the ballot paper:
1. Corbyn 2017: 12,858, 652 – Not voting: 14,662,140 (31.3%)
2. Blair 2001: 10,742,953 – Not voting: 18.022,711 (40.6%)
3. Corbyn 2019: 10,296,076 – Not voting: 15,757,624 (33.7%)
4. Blair 2005: 9,552,346 – Not voting: 17,067, 304 (38.6%)
5. Milliband 2015: 9,347,304 – Not voting: 15,530,729 (33.6%)
6. Brown 2010: 8,606,527 – Not voting: 15,915,474 (34.9%)
On these figures Starmer’s Junta and continuity Blairism is a dead end for both the LP and the Country. The Majority don’t want it and in a choice between Tweedledum and Tweedledee that Majority will stay at home or spoil their ballot paper.
Its called grown up analysis steveH. One day you might want to try it rather than pathetically bleating some lame one liner lamenting your own lack of gorm.
They did not vote for the tories they voted for the Party that was promising to deliver the Brexit they had already voted for.
The reality is that they chose to abandon Jeremy Corbyn and the prospect of a left-wing government for one of the most right-wing governments we have ever seen.
You really couldn’t make it up.
Remind us again which wing of the Party and which individuals it was who abandoned the majority of voters necessary to win an election via a policy of sabotaging Brexit through a second referendum?
And they knew what they were doing steveH. Just as they did during the sabotage of 2017. On both occasions batting for a Establishment Oligarchy that is rapidly going the way of the Roman Empire regardless of your pathetic and delusional attempts to rewrite reality.
And we know PRECISELY why these working class voters switched to Tory –
because they thought they had been betrayed, their wishes ignored.
Brexit was completely botched – the Labour Party should have stuck to campaigning
for the only possible Brexit given the NI border – ie belonging to the Single Market etc.
Anything else is impossible – as the populace of NI discovered when they found
that the border with the EU was down the centre of the sea between England and
Ireland.
In other words NI was in the Single Market and we are NOT – so why cannot we have
what they’ve got?
Of course Johnson had lied to everyone .. as everyone who knows him forecast .. so to
be fair the problem was not entirely of the LPs making.
Then there were the lies and smears about Corbyn .
Hiding behind constructive ambiguity for month after bloody month destroyed trust, where was the leadership?
Starmer’s 6 [very rigid] tests were “constructive ambiguity”?
Yeah. Right.
Go tell it to the marines bullshitter.