Trend seen across the country reaches East End of London. Shameless Labour demands they resign and fight by-elections, despite making no such demand of 3 Tory MPs who have defected
Three Hackney councillors who had been suspended by Labour for voting in favour of debating a motion calling for a ceasefire in Israel’s genocide in Gaza have quit the Labour party and formed a new Independent Socialists group.
Claudia Turbet-Delof, Penny Wrout and Fliss Premru said their former party is:
stifled by a lack of internal democracy, transparency and scrutiny.
They went on:
We can no longer in good conscience continue campaigning for a Labour party which nationally refuses to call out the genocide in Gaza, continues to support arms sales to Israel, and seeks to clamp down on pro-Palestinian protests.
They also cited Keir Starmer’s abandonment of all his leadership campaign pledges and his u-turn to support NHS privatisation and Tory spending cuts to local government funding, his ‘kid starver’ commitment to keeping the cruel two-child benefit cap and his adoption of the blue Tories’ racist anti-immigrant narratives – and his treatment of Diane Abbott, Britain’s first Black woman MP, who remains suspended for commenting on anti-Black racism (on of many forms of racism which Starmer’s Labour is ridden) while Starmer has welcomed hard-right Tory MPs into the party.
A Labour spokesperson described the development as ‘disappointing’ and – with extreme but unsurprising hypocrisy – said the councillors should resign their seats and fight by-elections. The three Tory MPs to defect to Labour have not been told to do so.
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Well in, you three!
And they didn’t demand the nonce case dewey resign. They allowed the animal to do so onstead of dosmossong itnourigjt abd forfeitong tje sest to be re-run.
Nonce kids = a minor inconvenience. Non-dismissal offence, but resignation will be (grudgingly) accepted.
Speak out against smarmer and his megalomaniac control freakery in ru(i)nning the party, added to his propensity for nonchalance when it comes to noncing kids = RESIGN AND BURN.
One f***ing skip fire of a circus, that ‘party’
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Toffee – It is debatable which version makes the most sense this one or your correction.
Billy – The day you ever become capable of engaging in serious debate using actual objective evidence rather than selective information to suit your prejudices and preconceptions will be the day you have any right whatsoever to chastise anyone on the subject of debating.
Should read: And they didn’t demand the nonce case dewey resign. They allowed the animal to do so instead of dismissing the animal outright and forfeiting the seat to be re-run.
“They” being the smarmerite circus.
Toffee – The time-line (of who knew what and when) given below and freely available from multiple news sources published at the time clearly illustrates that any claims that the Labour Party knowingly allowed Dewey to stand in the borough’s council elections despite his arrest are simply untrue.
Thomas Dewey (TD) was arrested on 29/04/2022 just 6 days before the election on 6/05/2022 and 24 days after the latest date that candidates could be changed in that election.
The National Crime Agency who carried out the raid and arrest did not inform Hackney Council about TD’s arrest until 13/05/22 a week after the election and Hackney Council’s Chief Executive did not inform the Mayor Philip Glanville (PG) until a day later on 14/05/22.
The Chief Executive of the Council officially informed the Labour Party on 16/05/22 10 days after the election took place.
It has been reported that when TD was confronted on 16/05/22 he immediately resigned both his seat and his already suspended membership of the Labour Party.
The house party pictured above took place on the same day (14/05/22) that PG was first informed of TD’s arrest. It was reported that PG said the following when challenged about his attendance at this house party.
”Being with Tom Dewey at all on May 14 was clearly an error of judgement for which I wholeheartedly apologise.
“I was told of his arrest, but not the full extent of the charges, in a brief discussion with the council chief executive the same day.
“I shouldn’t have been at the event in which we were photographed but I did so as I feared to cancel the event, or not attend myself, may alert Tom to what I knew, during what I understood to be a live criminal case.
“This does not alter the fact I had no involvement in the case, and shouldn’t deter from the actions, including moving out of the house the following day, as well as others I have taken since his resignation and conviction, which I have made clear in previous statements.”
Given that to date there doesn’t appear to be any evidence that the Labour Party knew anything about TD being arrested and bailed until at least a week after the election had taken place then any assertions that Labour allowing TD to stand in the election knowing that he was on bail for the possession of child porn appears to be nothing more than ill-informed hyperbole driven by factional prejudices rather than the known facts.
Maybe an enquiry will reveal further details but until someone comes up with some credible evidence that presents a radically different time-line on who knew what and when then it looks like the Labour Party were never in a position to prevent anything to do with this and given their knowledge at the time acted appropriately throughout.
Yes, right hands not telling left hands what they’re doing is a major fracture in Starmer’s supposed obsequiousness to the security state. They don’t actually trust him.
And neither do I.
The principle described here…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat
…..does not have a fence around it which limits that principle to the law only. It has a general (ie generic) application in and across society at large.
Besides which, politicians are well practiced in the art of plausible deniability.
Nice try though Billy.
Dave – Oh dear, how sad and disappointing are you? 😞
You are welcome to present any credible evidence that you have that contests the above time-line.
Reframing the issue to suit yourself won’t wash Billy.
And the issue I’m introducing is that of ignorance being no defence not the timeline.
Because the first thing normal people do when told a colleague has been arrested is to ask what the all charges were. Are we really to believe that Glanville did not seek full information on what those charges were?
And Glanville’s own statement on this reeks of ambiguity: ““I was TOLD of his arrest, BUT NOT the full extent of the charges.
Did he press the person who told him of the arrest and some of the charges for that information on what all the charges were? Because if he did not he has no business being in charge of counting the railings never mind being a mayor.
And if he did and still attended the event because he did not want to “alert Tom to what I knew” his judgement is compromised and he has no business being in any representative role.
So which is it Billy. Is he a fool or a rogue?
And the so called Chief Executive of the Council taking a full three days to inform the Labour Party (the council were informed on the 13th but did not inform the LP until the 16th according to your own account Billy) does not exactly inspire confidence in the competency of those involved.
Though it has to be noted this is at least consistent with the long record of the Starmer Junta and its personnel playing fast and loose with due process and the efficacy of standard operating procedures for dealing with matters.
The incompetence is staggering. The feigned ignorance reeks of dishonesty. If that is the type of company you want to keep and the practices you want to excuse that’s your problem Billy.
Own it rather than projecting your lies and bullshit onto others to cover your own obvious failings.
Now that the three are no longer smarmerite labour party members, it would be good to hear their views on that party’s refusal to allow hackney smarmerite labour to even as much as discuss their (smarmerite labour’s) almost criminally negligent mishandling of the nonce case episode, from start to finish.
Get on to them abar it, skwawky. Get ’em to fully let rip about what a bunch of wrong’uns infest it.
Guarantee it’ll make superb reading 👍
Congratulations and thanks to councillors Fliss Premru, Claudia Turbet-Delof and Penny Wrout. Your independence validates you.
It’s the ones that remain who need to justify why they continue to stay in this nu blue Labour Party.
qwertboi – It will be interesting to see whether the three of them have flushed their political careers down the toilet when they come up for re-election
Its not about a “career” Billy. Its about serving the community in an moral and ethical way.
The fact that this is what you think its all about speaks volumes about your character.
Dave – Their constituents will decide their fate
This is not a video game Billy. Its real life.
Again, the fact that you frame serious matters in such a way says more about your own limitations than it does about the subjects of your ire.
Subjects whose actions have clearly rattled your cage.
Dave – “This is not a video game Billy. Its real life. “
Yes and in ‘real life’ it is undeniable that if they stand for re-election their constituents will decide their fate. I’m perplexed why you should think this has anything to do with a video game. Does “the fact that you frame serious matters in such a way say more about your own limitations than it does about the subjects of your ire.”
As for rattled cages, I’ve just stated the obvious, you’re the one who is desperately trying to manufacture some outrage. 🥱
Describing the electoral process in such dramatic personal terms is bringing the democratic process down to the level of a video game Billy.
Whichever way such a vote eventually turns out it can hardly be described in terms such as sealing someone fate.
And that’s your problem Billy. Like the bullshit Official Narrative you keep pushing you see everything as a zero sum game.
You’ve been watching too much Hollywood, kid.
The murder of three UK citizens by the Israeli army: No reason to stop arms sales in the view of Sunak and his faithful sidekick Starmer, Leader of the Non-Opposition.
Taste of their own medicine
Every PLP should be ready to resign en masse the day the GE is called
It’s upto the Independents and othet progressive parties to agree a single candidate
Leave the 2 Cheeks and Reform alone to disappear up their own backsides
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/17/hackney-councillors-quit-labour-form-independent-socialist-group/#comment-255120
Making excuses for *ahem* overlooking a child sex offender, so smarmerite labour could gain a council seat.
And giving us chapter and verse with your excuse. As is your wont when it involves nonsenseism.
Yet, when anyone makes a post of over 240 characters on any subject critical of smarmerism (which, on this site, is the majority of articles) you accuse them of writing war-and-fucking-peace.
Sums you up to a tee.
By the way. Furnish me with the date – doesn’t have to be the EXACT date, just
the month and year will do – of when you buggered off to your safe haven on the Caribbean.
Toffee – “Making excuses for *ahem* overlooking a child sex offender, so smarmerite labour could gain a council seat. “
Not excuses but facts which clearly show that your accusations are a pack of lies.
But you knew that already, didn’t you?
That’s some chutzpah coming from an accomplished liar such as yourself Billy.
Dave – You are welcome to present any credible evidence you have that contests the above time-line.
The issue is your very obvious record of dishonest misrepresentation and lies Billy.
As you well know. Trying to change the subject to give yourself some wriggle room ain’t got any legs kid.
No one’s buying this bullshit you are pushing.
The issue is your very obvious record of dishonest misrepresentation and lies Billy.
So you keep saying, but where’s the proof.
No one’s buying this bullshit you are pushing.
Then why are you so worried.
Most will see that the only one who is desperate to change the subject is you. The time-line that I have published is accurate and given that you haven’t offered any evidence to the contrary are we to take it that you accept the accuracy of this time-line.
I stand by what I claim.
You excuse nonsenseism. You make excuses for the covering up of a paedophile within your ranks.
You do so on every occasion when the matter turns to smarmerite labour’s failings, and where they’ve been found to cause harm to children, directly or indirectly.
No ifs, no buts, no equivocation.
And I’m in no doubt that just like smarmerite labour, you’d have us banned from even discussing that shitshow’s chain of events and failings.
Disgusting, despicable nonce apologist.
Toffee – “I stand by what I claim.”
Oh really, thankfully it is not my problem that you are too dumb to appreciate how stupid and ill-informed your claims are.
Perhaps you could detail how and when Labour covered up a paedophile within their ranks. Could you please make some sort effort to try to get the basic facts right?
Another fact.
You’ve never once condemned dewey, nor glanvile,nor the chief exec, nor smarmerite labour.
Instead, you have made out that allowing the animal to resign the seat AFTER being elected knowing hed been charged with his degenerate criminal offences(s) rather than be dismissed outright was entirely the correct thing to do.
And I haven’t seen you say smarmerite labour should’ve forfeited the seat and forced another election.
No. Not a bit of it. You’ve excused, you’ve wrung your filthy hands, and you’ve pathetically pleaded that smarmerite labour acted entirely appropriately throughout.
You’re a disgrace to society, no better and of no more use than the nonce case itself. If I knew where you were I’d alert everybody to your predilections and propensities. You have NO place in a civilised society.
You are scum.
“Another fact.”
Are you sure you know what a fact is?
“You’ve never once condemned dewey, nor glanvile,nor the chief exec, nor smarmerite labour.
So what? If that is the case then I’m guessing that I didn’t feel the need to condemn Dewey because I naturally presumed that any right minded person would agree with me that Dewey’s behaviour was abhorrent. As for Glenville and the Chief Exec of the Council (like you) I don’t know enough about precisely what the contents of their conversation was to pass judgement and as for the Labour Party could you please detail precisely what they did wrong and when.
Fortunately we don’t all feel the need to run around shouting ‘nonce’ and along with a wide range of expletives to prove to ourselves what a ‘big man’ we are. Is this your second childhood.
Which is it, are you are too lazy or too dumb to get even the basic facts right
The proof, Billy, is in your own repeated failure to substantiate your lies and misrepresentations as detailed here:
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/06/video-labour-doorknocker-appears-to-call-voters-fing-pkis-for-voting-independent/#comment-254732
as well as……
….here:
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/15/video-journalists-flee-as-israeli-drone-bombs-them/#comment-255107
The fact that you have not substantiated your misrepresentations despite multiple opportunities spelled out to you Janet and John style is sufficient proof of your mendacity.
You are a liar Billy. You clearly don’t like that fact being drawn attention to and spelled out and it has certainly rattled your cage.
There is a legal remedy if you wish to pursue it. I would certainly have no problems defending it.
Dave – 🥱
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/06/video-labour-doorknocker-appears-to-call-voters-fing-pkis-for-voting-independent/#comment-254710
As one of those readers, Billy, I’ve already made the position clear.
You have misrepresented myself and the evidence supplied and have proven incapable of substantiating those repeated misrepresentations.
The normal course of action – upon which not only myself but also others will make their mind up about – is to either provide the evidence to substantiate your misrepresentations or apologise.
Which is it going to be Billy? Because further prevarication will simply further confirm to readers your mendacity and lack of credibility.
Dave – I thought I’d made my position quite clear. https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/17/hackney-councillors-quit-labour-form-independent-socialist-group/#comment-255264 whether you accept it or not is not my problem.
Your “position”, Billy is entirely in regard to other people who read this site.
My position is that you have misrepresented both myself and the evidence as previously detailed. Furthermore you have failed to substantiate your claims.
Preferring instead to deflect, project and prevaricate.
The fact that no one else here has declared for your “position” whilst the positions and arguments I have laid out on numerous occasions have received favourable responses (plural) clearly indicates that your position of confidence on the judgement of others on your position is misplaced.
The fact that you continue to believe otherwise in the face of the evidence all over this site simply further demonstrates how detached you are from reality in you little comfort blanket bubble.
I see that David Lammy has been giving us the benefit of his wisdom:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyer0y1klwro
He still believes in this special relationship garbage. The yanks see us as occasionally useful votes in the UN. Oh and we do our bit in black sites.
Yes, the special relationship cobblers:
“Eisenhower threatened to bankrupt Britain unless it complied with US instructions and withdraw from Suez immediately”
And I think there were even some reports that senior US military commanders wanted to attack British ships!
https://caltonjock.com/2014/09/02/the-1956-suez-crisis-the-special-relationship-stretches-in-one-direction-only/
Personally, I think that it was US opposition that explains why the Labour Party opposed it.
lammy… Who thought that black smoke from the Vatican chimney when selecting a new pope was racist… BUT IT’S BLACK david…🤦🤦🤦
Fuck my life…Just HOW the fuck did he become a barrister…And worse still, an MP??
I wouldn’t even have him flogging tickets for car parks ffs.