Analysis comment

Ten things (and more) the EHRC report says that destroy the right’s claims and credibility

Includes the biggest and most-often repeated claim of all

  1. the EHRC did not find that Labour were institutionally antisemitic
  2. EHRC: “There have been improvements in the rate of determining cases” – all under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn and Jennie Formby
  3. finds the Labour Party legally responsible only for the actions of two people, even though one was retired from elected office and the other was suspended and neither was acting at the request of the leadership or party. However, even if the two cases are valid, the EHRC’s conclusion makes a nonsense of the constant claims that the party’s leadership was responsible for the conduct of every member – which the EHRC specifically says it was not
  4. the EHRC’s report shows that ‘following an increase in NCC membership’, the rate of determining cases grew 83%
  5. EHRC says Labour improved the quantity of cases heard once Jennie Formby took over
  6. Labour NEC panels resolved 242% more antisemitism cases in 2019 compared to 2018
  7. EHRC noted that expanding the NCC under Jennie Formby allowed it to hear more cases
  8. EHRC “The Labour Party has recently introduced reforms which improve the ability of the NEC & NCC panels to decide cases
  9. EHRC notes “improvements to the sanction system, with cases completed and leading to expulsions in the EHRC sample process tripling in 2019 compared to the 3 previous years added together
  10. EHRC “The Labour Party has made some improvements, which have resulted in an increase use of sanctions for antisemitic conduct.”

The report also:

  • implies that the focus on antisemitism, driven by adverse media attention, had disadvantaged other ethnic minority groups: “this means that an even wider pool of members was treated very poorly by their party”
  • treats describing any complaints as ‘smears’ as antisemitic, resulting in the worrying implication that Jewish people are incapable of making the untrue statements that all human beings are capable of
  • states that in many, possibly most cases, what flaws there were in Labour’s handling of complaints hurt those complained against
  • fails to differentiate in its criticisms between what happened before Jennie Formby and the left on Labour’s NEC had control of the party’s processes and what happened after. However, its numerous references to improvements under Formby make the reality undeniable
  • criticises Labour for not fully implementing the Chakrabarti report – a report that Labour’s critics at first welcomed and then u-turned to attack

The SKWAWKBOX’s predictions last night of what the report would contain have been proven correct, including further information not listed above. For details, see here.

The right’s constant attacks are discredited by the EHRC report, even if the report is phrased in a way that obscures facts that have to be mined out of its 100-plus pages. Of course, you’re extremely unlikely to hear any of this from the ‘mainstream’ media or the opponents of the movement that emerged under Jeremy Corbyn.

Further analysis will follow.

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    1. Yes, to defend themselves “Problem”. “Solution”. The BBC knows where it sits.

    2. Today on the BBC we will have wall to wall bleating from the Zionist Labour Movement and the Zionist Friends of Israel telling everyone how hurt they’ve been.

  1. I have been suddenly locked out of Twitter, for posting: “@sajidjavid No, not really. But we do have a problem with Uncle Tom. #ToryScum” some days ago. But today, I am locked out … 😐

  2. James O’Brien on LBC is desperately spinning the whole thing (as was to be expected)

    1. tomlondra I briefly listened to O’Brien about half hour a go. The way he bullied someone by interrupting them because she was trying to explain what has been going on in the party in the last five years was shocking

      1. heard a bit of that.
        Deliberately deselect LBC weekdays 10-13:00hrs so won’t hear the dreadful bully when i tap the ear plug. The app cycles through stations u last used.

        The lady was amazing though. Assertive but calm. Not good to phone progs like that though as it keeps nasties employed. And best bit of conversation radio is hearing the callers. Any presenter who needs 15-17 minutes of monologue then still needs to interrupt callers is poor quality. NB ALL his monologues lost the votes, just like his colleagues: eg Clinton lost to Trump, Remain lost, Luciana Berger, Ummuna etc all lost. The Limp Dims lost.

        Jeremy actually one three leadership votes and largest election vote share since 1949 despite the biased brow beating onslaught by OB slime and his other colleague.
        No matter your stance, brow beating presenters lost all their arguments.

      2. was on on radio in other room briefly. Glad i heard the lady though.

  3. EHRC….What a shambolic Organisation that has been used by the right wing Labour party to damage itself and the Labour party.Suicide on Steroids and all down to the broad church idea that allowed even Corbyns team to crucify its most loyal supporters .in the hope that the AS scam would go away.Waving the white flag could never succeed against the tyrant.

  4. The Guardian likes, or even encourages quotes and links from other publications, and indeed much of its “reporting” is simply direct quotes from other sites, or people’s twitter feeds.

    Bearing that in mind, I c&p’d the first part of the Skwawkbox article, and gave the link to show where it had come from.

    It was removed.

    Clearly, not only NOT the Guardian view, but now one it is prepared to tolerate on its pages.

    What is it the Guardian used to quote? Ah yes, “Comment is free ….”

  5. Here is the full text of Jeremy Corbyn response

    “Antisemitism is absolutely abhorrent, wrong and responsible for some of humanity’s greatest crimes. As Leader of the Labour Party I was always determined to eliminate all forms of racism and root out the cancer of antisemitism. I have campaigned in support of Jewish people and communities my entire life and I will continue to do so.

    “The EHRC’s report shows that when I became Labour leader in 2015, the Party’s processes for handling complaints were not fit for purpose. Reform was then stalled by an obstructive party bureaucracy. But from 2018, Jennie Formby and a new NEC that supported my leadership made substantial improvements, making it much easier and swifter to remove antisemites. My team acted to speed up, not hinder the process.

    “Anyone claiming there is no antisemitism in the Labour Party is wrong. Of course there is, as there is throughout society, and sometimes it is voiced by people who think of themselves as on the left.

    “Jewish members of our party and the wider community were right to expect us to deal with it, and I regret that it took longer to deliver that change than it should.

    “One antisemite is one too many, but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media. That combination hurt Jewish people and must never be repeated.

    “My sincere hope is that relations with Jewish communities can be rebuilt and those fears overcome. While I do not accept all of its findings, I trust its recommendations will be swiftly implemented to help move on from this period.”

  6. Today’s news, tomorrow’s chip-paper. ..After the msm have had their spin on it, of course

    1. Oh, and cuboid-head himself, along with the likes of little steven, the buttplug, and the rest of the stammerite lackeys…

    1. Quite correct, David Cannon.

      Which is why like the ‘rags put their antisemitism AND their more prominent islamophobia on the back burner (Still to be dealt with in any meaningful manner). labour should NEVER have allowed antisemitism to be one part of the two major issues the centrists were allowed to dictate; whether good members were being expelled unfairly or not – the priority should A:LWAYS have been to get a socialist labour government elected, first, last and foremost….THEN deal with the issue.

      Once people would’ve actually started to notice REAL, MEANINGFUL AND BENEFICIAL change to their day-to-day lives – brought about by socialist policies – they would’ve given even less of a shite about the hyperbole of the accusations, and due to the inclusivity of said policies, would’ve soon saw them for exactly what they were.

      But, despite the thinly veiled toerag racism and hypocrisy, people STILL voted for them. Which proves in the grand scheme of things that neither antisemitism nor islamophobia were top – or even close to being anywhere’s near top – of the majority of the electorate’s agenda.

    2. I do believe that was perhaps a mistake made by Corbyn. Him being the way he is tried to pacify them when really he should have put up a robust defence of what was really going on in the party. Alas it must have been extremely difficult for him when he had to deal with majority of his MPs, MSM and outside bodies trawling themselves around every media outlet to denigrate him I don’t know

      1. Agreed. The relentless demonisation he had to endure from enemies inside & outside the party demonstrates his strength but was never going to end well. After 2017, the elite pulled out all the stops to defeat him and Brexit didn’t help…

      2. Brexit was the sole cause of allowing Johnson to take our easy victory. The demonisation without rebuttals then sealed the coffin. Predictable. Harsh truth but truth. The pacification of the foes obviously gave them confidence to keep demanding.

  7. UK corporate media are degrading our democracy. Too many tax-haven based billionaires in control!!!

    1. If u got rid of all the MSM billionaires etc, but failed to rebut lies repeated anywhere by anyone, they take root. Many examples in history. Basic facts. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. We must ACT with intelligence and decisiveness. You will never get everyone to like or agree with you. To aim for that and sacrifice friends and long held beliefs, ends in tragedy. Predicted and predictable. Until this truth is recognised, this tragedy will be repeated. Fail to learn from history. Prepare to fail.

      1. We may envisage differing outcomes but I agree with your methodology

    1. It didn’t take him long to emphasise the “collective failure of leadership”. make sure the name ‘Jeremy Corbyn was mentioned three times immediately and promise that correcting it is “top priority”.

      The man is a charlatan and I trust him less every day. The billionaires have probably spent more than even the CIA on deprecating the left getting there man in place.

      1. The man is a charlatan and I trust him less every day. The billionaires have probably spent more than even the CIA on deprecating the left getting there man in place.

        You forgot Mossad….

  8. It looks to me like the EHRC report is automatically identifying statements containing criticism of the behaviour of Israel or Zionists as automatically anti semitic by calling them an attack on Jewish ethnicity ?

    How does that fit in with IHRA guidelines that where it advises that

    1) Criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic?

    2) Statements should be assessed in their overall context ( intended meaning ) before interpreting them as being ant-semitic?

  9. There is no doubt whatsoever that Israel is a racist State, racism is enshrined in their Nation State Law:

    “The actualization of the right of national self-determination in the state of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.”

    “The state sees developing Jewish settlement as a national interest and will take steps to encourage, advance, and implement this interest.”

    According to Zionists, if you criticise this, you are antiSemitic. Israel is a rogue State born out of terrorism intended to dispossess by force if necessary, indigenous Palestinians, be they Jews, Christians or Muslims from their homes and land if they did not accept Zionism

    This is Chris Williamson’s excellent response to the EHRC:

    1. According to Zionists, if you criticise this, you are antiSemitic.

      According to you, if you refuse to criticise Jenny Formby, you are a zionist. If someone disagrees with you over brexit, or just about anything else – they’re zionist.

      Nevermind that all 10 points raised by the report and highlighted by Skwawkbox at the top of this thread are in deference and praise of Formby’s endeavours in one way or another – oh, no!

      Chris Williamson (For one) was stitched up, so that makes Formby an out-and-out zionist; make no mistake….Her, and everyone who praised her efforts while she was suffering from cancer.

      You’ll criticise them for making false allegations but you can’t back up your own putrid assertions.

      I’ll ask you again – What did the (44:1) in my username at that time represent, jackanory? You’ve had enough clues in the things this so-called zionist has wrote over the last few days…And especially in this post.

      1. Ah, Toffee the cyber bovver boy and Zionist appologist trolls again!

    2. And children. You fou forgot those frightening hordes nearly 300mettres from the fence. I thank the brave snipers for their device and their ability to maintain a sense of humour even when facing such perilous circumstances. Stay masked and remember grass your neighbours. You know that it’s the right thing to do. ☮️

    3. Oh you’re the ‘victim’ of my ‘trolling’ are you, jackanory?

      And I suppose making thoroughly disproved accusations of people being ‘zionist’ without any trace of proof ISN’T trolling, is it?

      You made a claim I’m a zionist; you think you’re the authoirty on zionism – Yet you refuse back it up by telling us what the (44:1) represented in my username, and instead, laughably and despcably try to paint yourself as some sort of victim of trolling….In EXACTLY the same fashion as the zionists used against the left

      …And ALL without any trace of irony, hypocrisy or self awareness, mind.

      So, answer the question; Get it right = You’re in the clear and I am indeed a troll.

      What did the (44:1) reperesent in my username?

      You can either be a ‘mensch’ and answer a simple question to enable you clear your name…Or admit you make false allegations of zionism because in reality you haven’t a fucking clue of the definition of the term.

      Your choice.

      1. Toffee the troll tries to excuse his previous attempts to take the spotlight off Zionist activities. Tell everyone why Toffee, it’s because you have a morbid obsession against anyone who criticised your hatred of the EU.

  10. I’m watching it now. Please someone, anyone, tell me why they want to join or stay in Max Headrooms torture loving party? It can’t be loyalty, because what would one be loyal to? Do some believe that Max is going on a roundabout way to the rainbow. Is because Smeeth and “legs” Berger , who will get parachuted back in, are so attractive, trustworthy and honest? What does big Len think? Supermac and the rest? This one-sided demolition job has been on for over half an hour and there has not been one opposing view. The whole report was crushed down and the Reporters were calling for J.C to be expelled. That question threw the interviewees of guard, even they hadn’t considered it. For the sake of the people , members stop funding these cuts at the very least. Logic tells the unions, decent MPs, members that now enough is enough. We need a paper urgently. Organise comrades, we cannot win under these conditions. The people need us now because dirty deeds are being done deep in the masks. I’m sad but I’m old and I shall fight back till they drag me into one of their abbatoirs and I die of dehydration. I have some good news, anecdotal to be true, but one of my neighbours has a friend whose mother has a doctor’s appointment in December. Could be a call but I will pass on any details. ☮️ Comrades.

  11. Toffee – Oh dearie, dearie me, didn’t you get any takers last time you tried this childish nonsense. Surely it should be quite apparent to you by now that nobody gives a toss about your ‘look at me’ please, please, please ask me about the suffix that I’ve attached to my username sillyness.. 😏

    1. Says you – who starts crying when someone intervenes when you’re getting your arse handed to you by everyone else.

      It isn’t about me…It’s about showing up jacakanory’s hypocrisy and lies; in making allegations that I’ve gone out of my way to prove false with EVIDENCE, and asking him the reason he can’t back them up. Just like you- who runs from every question you’re ever asked but demand others answer YOU…Thereby making it all about YOU, hypocrite.

      Jackanory fancies himself as some sort of ‘authoritah’ on zionism…Well, let’s see him answer my simple question?

      I’d ask you, but given your form as well as your lack of mental capacity and capability…But nevermind…If you want to include yourself in someone else’s bullshit I’ll happily show YOU up for the idiot you are

      So, what was the (44:1) representative of, if you’re so concerned about jackanory getting shown up?

      Run along, little fella….Because you’re stumped once again, aren’t you, knobby?

      1. SteveH doesn’t give a flying fox about JackT lying through his nasty little fascist teeth about you, as he did me. And needless to say, both JackT and SteveH know EXACT:Y what the 44.1 stood for.

        They are of course both paid black propagana shills!

      2. Allan – More to the point, I don’t give a fuck what a numpty like you who is puffed up with his own hubris thinks

      3. ….EXACTLY what the 44.1 stood for.

        I wonder how long it will take for SteveH or JackT to respond!

  12. Where does one start.
    This morning on BBC news John Mann (he who is now employed by the Tory Party) and Ella Rose (who made an appearance in the Al Jezeera excellent 4 part series) was interviewed. Mann in his usual vindictive way eventually said he’s looking forward to Jeremys retirement.
    Ella Rose I’d switched off by then. There was no explanation from the presenter that they’d asked for a representative from someone with opposing views. There was no Corbyn is not here to defend himself. The so called impartiality was severely lacking. Even my partner who’s a less excitable than me turned the BBC news off in disgust.
    Then you have James O’Brien bullying a woman when she tried to explain what was going on in the party. His last words to her was that he’d looked at her twitter feed and the top that was a Tweet from Tommy Corbyn. In a vitriolic way he also made the point of the lady being from JVL as if he was talking about an extreme far right group that needed to be proscribed.
    I have now received an email from Starmer saying he will implement all the EHRC recommendations. The party has been found guilty of breaching the Equalities Act, unlawful harassment and discrimination towards the Jewish community. There is no mention of how the investigations were improved under Jenny Formby. He wants those who left the party because of AS to rejoin. I suspect he’s lining up certain ex-members to replace left MPs by parachuting them in as their PPC.
    So it remains to be seen what Starmer’s next step will be. If he tries to do what he’s been requested to do by the BOD, CAA and the JLM to expel Jeremy if this happens civil war will break out within the party

    1. Yes, Ela Rose the delicate Zionist thug who said she could ‘take’ Jackie Walker. Amazingly, she was given time on the podium at the last Labour Conference. It just shows how deeply the Zionists have embedded themselves into the LP.

  13. If the Labour Party is now committed to objectively/independently committed to transparently investigating all complaints without political interference/influence how long before it deals with the one about Keir Starmer’s use of an anti-semitic trope as an excuse to sack RLB?

    1. Iain – I was under the impression that RLB got the sack for arguing the toss and prevaricating when she was instructed to take down a tweet by her party leader. Take your pick she was either extremely naïve or looking to engineer her own dismissal.

      1. That comment looks very familiar SteveH – did you just copy-paste one of your own old comments?
        I don’t pay twice for the same comments and I don’t pay you to slack off… get some work done or I’m knocking it off your wages.

      2. David – Perish the thought that I would do something like that, Although I of course remember posting similar comments I have absolutely no idea how dis/similar they are. Your welcome to search out my previous comments and check if you want to, let me know how you get on.

  14. Take your pick she was either extremely naïve or looking to engineer her own dismissal.

    Dear God!!!

    You’re NEVER living THAT one down, soft shite. Engineered her own dismissal That’s a fucking WINNER, that truly IS.

    ‘Ere jackanory, seen what your mate’s wrote now? Sure you still want him backing you up?

    It’s like Capt Blackadder having Lt George defending him in that court-martial episode.

  15. Have Jeremy Corbyn’s Human Rights be violated?

    Article 3: Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
    Article 6: Right to a fair trial
    Article 9: Freedom of thought, belief and religion
    Article 10: Freedom of expression
    Article 11: Freedom of assembly and association
    Article 14: Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms

    It would take a more FORENSIC LEGAL mind than mine to refer this to the EHRC any suggestions?

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