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Breaking: 20 Labour councillors quit in Notts, form independent group and take control of council

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Broxtowe Independents accuse Starmer’s Labour of abandoning party’s values

Twenty Labour councillors, including council leader Milan Radulovic, have quit the party this afternoon and formed an independent group in protest at the party’s betrayal of ‘traditional Labour values’ under Keir Starmer, including his collusion in Israel’s genocide in Gaza and the decision to sentence thousands of pensioners to death each winter by cutting the Winter Fuel Allowance for around ten million.

The Broxtowe Independents now control the local council as a minority independent administration, taking control away from Labour. A Labour spokesperson said the decision was ‘incredibly disappointing’ – presumably more disappointing than freezing to death thousands of pensioners, as Starmer and his ‘fake-CV’ Chancellor Rachel Reeves were quite prepared to embrace that outcome despite knowing it would be the consequence of the winter cut.

The new group said that the party had blocked ten of them had been blocked from standing for Labour at the approaching elections for Nottinghamshire County Council because after they spoke up against the winter fuel allowance decision. Keir Starmer campaigned for the party leadership in 2020 promising to empower local members to select their candidates, but immediately set about seizing even greater central control once he was in the job.

Radulovic said that he:

cannot support and will not support another centrist government intent on destroying local democracy and dictating national policy from a high pedestal…

…I believe the concentration of power in the hands of fewer people and the abolition of local democracy through the current proposals of super councils is nothing short of a dictatorship, where local elected members, local people, local residents will have no say over the type and level of service provided in their area

Around a hundred now-former Labour members have also joined the independents. Labour managed to take the Broxtowe parliamentary seat – thanks, as in around ninety other seats, to the Reform ‘party’ taking almost half the Tory vote – but Starmer’s party has suffered a record collapse in public support since then.

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54 comments

    1. It will be interesting to see how they fare when the electorate next has the opportunity to choose.

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      1. Thought keef was popular?

        Further irrefutable evidence that he just isn’t.

      2. It will be interesting to see how they fare when the electorate next has the opportunity to choose

        Meanwhile, keef will fill tje candidacies with more lickspittles, more members will be forced to walk the plank or jump ship, leaving an ever-decreasing ‘gene pool’ to choose from.

        So then it’ll be a party full of incestuous smarmerists already hated by the public at large with fewer mugs (if any) to go out campaigning for them.

        That’s before we get to the shitshow they’re making of running the country

        Therefore, what WILL be ‘interesting is to see how the keef-selected smarmerist candidates fare.

      4. Given that according to your own link “Mr Marshall unsuccessfully stood for Labour in 2017 and 2019” and did significantly worse in 2019 than he did in 2017 it is difficult to see what he had to offer for a party that wanted to win a majority. Labour’s candidate won in 2024.

      5. Anyone who professes to be on ‘the left’ and supports Farage needs to give their head a wobble

      6. “It will be interesting to see how they fare when the electorate next has the opportunity to choose.”

        Given that many local elections will not take place next year…..

        https://skwawkbox.org/2024/12/16/frit-starmer-cancels-2025-local-elections-to-avoid-trouncing/

        …….the question arises as to when that might be, if at all – given the authoritarian nature of the regime you are supporting, Billy.

        And the least you could do is make some token effort to keep up with such realities rather than festering at the back of the class gibbering inanities into the ether.

        The other question, of course, is what exactly such a choice encapsulates in the current shit show of a Country collapsing around our ears. A ‘choice’ limited to a few brands of the same failed product is not a choice.

        Hence, the currently sporadic outbreak of defections from what is a sinking ship which will inevitably turn into a flood once the tipping point is reached.

      8. In what way does that contradict the point made about when that so called ‘choice’ may occur, Billy.

        In fact, your link only serves to emphasise my point.

        You aren’t very good at this, are you.

      9. Dave – “In fact, your link only serves to emphasise my point.”

        Really 🤔
        Can you explain how?

    2. “Really 🤔
      Can you explain how2?

      Simple logic, Billy.

      The original point – for those of us who are actually consistent in sticking to the original parameters we set – was that a proportion of voters would have to wait to make the “choice” which was at the core of your post of 4:46 pm 02/01/25.

      The link you posted confirms this point that the “choice” will be “delayed”.

      The blatant clue being in the URL text.

      Thus, reinforcing one of the two original points I made that the “choice” will be delayed.

      Do try and keep up at the back there, Billy.

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  2. In Broxtowe?

    BROXTOWE…IN NOTTINGHAMSHIRE?

    Nottinghamshire – the home of the scab miner, blairite/centrist labour, and many a (former) high-profile toerag mp? (That I suppose would be considered ‘on the left’ of the rags..eg kenneth clarke, and former toerag mp anna soubry – former Broxton mp)

    Say it ain’t so!!

    Things are – indeed – looking bleak for smarmerism, if folk from that neck of the woods are ditching the greasy one.

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  3. The abandonment of the big iwo continues at a pace. The New New Labour can win the next arguement election is looking increasingly hollow.

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  4. One has to wonder why there isn’t a candidate for the self appointed ‘guardians of the left‘ standing in every local bi-election.?🤔

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      2. “bi-election”

        Now there’s an interesting Freudian slip.

    2. Plenty to sneer about when it comes to the left but fuck-all offered about the reality of keef visibly and unashamedly jemmying the door open for the faragists to waltz through.

      But apparently, it’s people like me doing that.

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      1. Please correct if I’m wrong Toffee, but didn’t Starmer make Farage’s Labour opponent stand down in July so that Nigel could finally win a seat? I gather from what I’ve read, that the young Labour candidate was making a good impression on the electorate before he received his marching orders.
        And we must remember history ‘s lesson, which teaches that it is the role of Centrists to hold the fort for the likes of the Tories, or to allow the far right to the chance to gain power – as in Germany in 1933, when the SDP “just knew that a Hitler-led government wouldn’t last 3 months.
        And we know where that went.

    3. Don’t be gormless, Billy. Have you any idea how much money and resources are required to field candidates under the present sorry excuse for a democratic process?

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      1. Dave – Not that much really, particularly if there is a modicum of grass-root support within a local authority seat

      3. But the terms you originally set out, Billy, were specifically about standing in every by election rather than a single one.

      5. Billy – ….and are you now changing your original parameters?

      6. Dave – Any lack of grass-root support is your problem not mine.,

      7. I’ll take that as a yes – that you are changing the original parameters (to suit yourself) – then, Billy.

      8. Dave – You can take it any way you like, I doubt that anyone apart from you cares one way or t’other.

        Given that many independents win council seats with the campaigning support of just a few friends I am struggling to see your point you are so desperately trying to make.
        Are you now conceding that there is actually a dearth of people who have the same perverse political ideology as you and your comrades.

      9. “I am struggling”

        A state of being which is clearly a feature rather than a bug as well as your default on anything and everything, Billy.

        The simple reality is that the organisational costs of standing in more than a small handful of wards and constituencies is prohibitive on a number of vectors; financial, media coverage, profile etc.. Even the Tinge faction which broke away after failing to remove Corbyn from the Party leadership could not manage it.

        And that was with substantial private financial backing and a corrupt media all too willing to present their case in a favourable, rather than unfavourable, light.

        Besides which, even if all those barriers are overcome, the next line of establishment defence when they lose popular support is to throw unevidenced and unsubstantiated allegations around (a practice you are well versed in, Billy) and annul the election.

        Ask the Romanians.

  5. Anyone who professes to be on ‘the left’ and supports Farage needs to give their head a wobble

    Oh really?

    What’s keef’s excuse, genius?

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    2. “What’s keef’s excuse, genius?”

      I take it, Toffee, that you are referring to Herr Starmer’s active support in getting Farage into Parliament by moving the “Labour” candidate out of the constituency and refusing access to the Labour Party Contact Creator database to the Clacton CLP during last year’s General Election campaign.

      Not to mention all those other Constituencies Herr Starmer denied support to which benefitted the Reform vote by denying Labour voters in those constituencies a LP campaign presence.

      Ironic, really, given that Billy is effectively hoisting himself by his own petard. The unstinting support Billy gives to Starmer and what he represents is a classic example of supporting Farage which Billy is criticising others for without providing any evidence to substantiate his piss poor allegation.

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      1. SteveH02/01/2025 at 7:14 pm
        Toffee – What question would that be?

        As you insist on making a complete gobshite of yourself by pretending to be ignorant of the facts which have been explained in detail, I’ll insist on spelling the questions (plural) for you to make an even bigger twat of yourself.

        1. Who – and I’ll repeat that – WHO chose broxtowe’s candidate for the last election?

        2. Who prevented the Clacton labour candidate from campaigning in the constituency they were contesting; sending them to campaign in the west midlands instead?

        It’s simple enough for even a pretentious gawp like you to comprehend.

        So you can either answer, or remain a gobshite who is hated by all – including your beloved self-proclaimed SOCIALIST leader, keef.

      2. Toffee – Do you mean who selected the Labour candidate who unlike her predecessor won the Broxstowe constituency.

        Don’t be silly, why waste campaigning resources on an unwinnable seat?
        It is self evident that Labour’s campaigning strategy proved to be very successful

      3. Toffee – Do you mean who selected the Labour candidate who unlike her predecessor won the Broxstowe constituency.

        Don’t be silly, why waste campaigning resources on an unwinnable seat?
        It is self evident that Labour’s campaigning strategy proved to be very successful

        So you’re telling us it doesn’t matter if the socialist who puts country before party chooses the candidate as long as they win the seat.

        All totally acceptable because the previous candidate had lost twice beforehand.

        Fair enough.

        You also tell us that ‘any socialist who supports farage should give their head a wobble’

        Except the same keef that denied the democratic choice to broxtowe residents is the same keef that didn’t even allow his candidate to campaign against farage, thereby handing the overt far-right gobshite an entry into Westminster politics.

        And that was farage’s EIGTH attempt., having lost his previous SEVEN attempts.

        Keep digging, prick.

  6. SteveH02/01/2025 at 6:40 pm
    Given that according to your own link “Mr Marshall unsuccessfully stood for Labour in 2017 and 2019” and did significantly worse in 2019 than he did in 2017 it is difficult to see what he had to offer for a party that wanted to win a majority. Labour’s candidate won in 2024.

    And whochose broxtowe’s winning candidate in 24? Weren’t broxtowe CLP.

    See below for more….

    SteveH02/01/2025 at 6:45 pm
    Anyone who professes to be on ‘the left’ and supports Farage needs to give their head a wobble.

    And who prevented the Labour candidate from campaigning in Clacton,, seconding him to fhe Midlands, and thereby handing the seat to farage?

    Weren’t Clacton CLP. It was keef- jealous of the social media attention the ‘labour’ candidate was receiving.

    But keefs on the left – a self-professed SOCIALIST, no less. And ALWAYS puts country before party.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-bbc-sky-news-west-sussex-liz-truss-b1160422.html

    So, what was that about being on the left and supporting farage, hmmm?

    Have yet ANOTHER go, soft shite.

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  7. Broxtowe – an ‘unwinnable seat’ for labour, according to your genius.

    Fuck me,…and you’re still blaming the toerags and their14 years of black holes..

    It was a labour seat until 2010. Marshall lost by only 860 or so votes in 17 and it was only because of the shithousery employed by your socialist leaderphile that the rags increased their majority to an easily attainable/overturnable 5,300, with the former-toerag-turned-tinge candidate soubry taking more abour votes away.

    A fucking telegraph pole would’ve won that seat if they’d have pinned a red rosette on it, last July.

    But hey?! It wuz keef wot won it for broxtowe, and fuck the CLP who were denied their democratic choice.

    Bellend.

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    1. “A fucking telegraph pole would’ve won that seat if they’d have pinned a red rosette on it, last July.”

      As someone who once controlled engineers whose job it was to test telegraph poles, I can advise you that the majority of those who stood under such a banner would have been classified as “D”(D for Defective) Poles due to decay at the tip.

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      1. And those defective telegraph poles were still of far more use than the wee gobshite.

      2. Having also worked in a unit dealing with third party damage, you’d be surprised – given the very low surface area footprint of a telegraph pole – just how many motor vehicles are attracted to telegraph poles.

        Car crashes being an apt metaphor for what passes for a “Labour” Government.

    2. Toffee – “Broxtowe – an ‘unwinnable seat’ for labour, according to your genius.”

      Where did I say that?

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  8. Don’t be silly, why waste campaigning resources on an unwinnable seat?
    It is self evident that Labour’s campaigning strategy proved to be very successful

    Ere wee genius, I’ve given you a thorough schooling about broxtowe so now it’s Clacton’s turn

    Was Clacton an unwinnable seat??

    OR – does holding wide open the door to the commons’ chamber for farage count as self-evidently a very successful campaign strategy

    DO tell.

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    1. Toffee – Given that Electoral Calculus categorises the seat as being part of the “Strong Right” demographic, those who have fiscally conservative views on the economy but are also fairly nationalist and socially conservative, alongside strong support for Brexit. Clacton is also, in general, highly deprived, in terms of employment, income and education, when measured comparatively with the rest of the UK, with 64% of the constituency being impoverished, according to the site. In addition to this, the latest government labour data has also revealed that economic inactivity in Clacton is at 46.8% – more than twice the 21.7% UK average then I would say that this was one of the few unwinnable seats for Labour

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      1. https://skwawkbox.org/2025/01/02/breaking-20-labour-councillors-quit-in-notts-form-independent-group-and-take-control-of-council/#comment-263006

        Bluster and bullshit – as per.

        You complain that broxtowe was unwinnable under Marshall because he was a beaten candidate twice.

        Yet farage was beaten SEVEN times before keef did what you complained about (for broxtowe under Marshall’s candidacy) and WASTED funds on PREVENTING his own candidate from even being allowed to campaign for the seat.

        As for your referral to Clacton being a brexit seat…didn’t stop you from promoting keefs second referendum shithousery during the previous two elections, did it?

        How many seats did that make unwinnable for corbyn, you hypocritical fucking moron.

      2. Electoral Calculus, Billy, had a load of seats across the north of England as solid Labour seats in 2019.

        Seats which returned a lot of Conservative MP’s in that election – including in the Constituency where I reside – on the back of getting Brexit done (the electorate having decided that the policy on Brexit driven by Herr Starmer on behalf of the LP was not to their liking. A fact I, along with many others who were actually here and speaking to people at the time, can attest to).

        As is the case with all reductionist ‘thinkers’ such as yourself, Billy, you are clearly incapable of dealing with the impact of context on any given situation.

        Best you stick to counting the railings as you are very obviously way out of your depth here.

  9. SteveH03/01/2025 AT 12:50 AM
    Toffee – “Broxtowe – an ‘unwinnable seat’ for labour, according to your genius.”

    Where did I say that?.

    Right here

    SteveH02/01/2025 AT 7:37 PM
    Toffee – Do you mean who selected the Labour candidate who unlike her predecessor won the Broxstowe constituency.

    Don’t be silly, why waste campaigning resources on an unwinnable seat?
    It is self evident that Labour’s campaigning strategy proved to be very successful

    NO ifs, NO buts, NO equivocation.

    You said broxtowe was an unwinnable seat.

    And we know you meant broxtowe because you refer specifically to broxtowe in THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE of your post.

    According to you, broxtowe was unwinnable under marshall. It only became winnable and was won when keef imposed his choice on broxtowe that labour won the seat.

    Cretin.

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  10. The genocide-supporting Uniparty [Labour branch] is breaking apart – good! Now we need courageous MPs breaking away.

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