Video and images from inaugural Croydon meeting – which will be covered on tonight’s Flintoff show
South Londoners held their inaugural Your Party branch meeting this week. Gerry Tasker was on the spot to capture some photos and the speeches from a full and enthusiastic meeting, some of which are shown below:
The meeting will be discussed with some of those involved, on the Crispin Flintoff show from 7pm this evening via Zoom (https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83897902564 Meeting ID: 838 9790 2564).
Liverpool Community Independents, who hammered Labour in three council elections in the city last year, also held a meeting and agreed to merge their group into the new Liverpool Your Party. A first meeting of the new YP in the city will take place in the next month or so.
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Things can only get worser for Labours vile bunch of parasites mp’s
I bet some MP’S are thinking they will lose there cushy job and decide to change party’s because Labour once a great party is going dawn the toilet
I’m a little surprised that Jeremy & Zara weren’t there to rally the ‘troops’.
That’s because you remain stuck in the past of an old top down paradigm that does not work, Billy.
Unfortunately, that is where you will remain until the penny drops that your obsession with TINA as the only, alleged, “credible” system has no future.
Well put Dave. In technolgy, they call it “decentralised”.
Decentralised technology refers to systems where authority, control, and decision-making are distributed across a network of participants rather than being held by a single central entity.
In politics, we call it “democratic socialism”. Your Party’s exactly that
I’m a little surprised that Jeremy & Zara weren’t there to rally the ‘troops’.
Nah, Jeremy and zara don’t need do cosplay to
impress the rent boysrally the troops..https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/12/22/11/79249117-12893355-image-a-9_1703243560715.jpg
I’m sure our lads were up for anything vlad could throw at them, after seeing keef look a right twat (he doesn’t need the smock to, neotjer)
Toffee – Oh dear 😕
“Oh dear.”…from the last remaining dregs of support (and not even a uk citizen at that) for THE most HATED PM in history.
…And to think of the amount and (lack of) quality of candidates before the slimeball…including truss, de piffle, may cameron, bliar….keef tops >b>all of them
Oh dear.
Toffee – Well I’ll give Jeremy his due, he’s good at getting the vote out. Even those who don’t normally vote. 😏
Is that an acknowledgement that corbyn’s more popular than keef?
He (corbyn) also almost TREBLED labour’s membership.
How many members has keef gained in his five years?
Toffee – No, it’s an acknowledgement that more people voted against Jeremy.
Have you forgotten that in 2019 for the first time ever more of the working class voted Tory than voted for Labour and this was by a very substantial margin of 15%.
Unfortunately Jeremy got more of the vote out but most of them voted against him.
And right now, after five years of ever-dwindling vote share, your r2d2 or whatever you call them, are uncoincidentally voting anyone BUT keef.
Whose fault is that, genius?
And even after both sets of polling (including the opinion polling that you were once so fond of) irrefutably demonstrate that keef is an electoral biohazard, you still can’t bring yourself to admit that both over time – combined and exacerbated by the more prominent keef became within fhe party – the lower the support.
The longer he stays, the exponentially greater the anathema
The best part is, they’re too far gone; the gobshites who remain in that cabal will only elect a continuity keef candidate (as that’s all they have left) and so their terminal expiration becomes ever more impending.
And I for one, cannot wait to see the demise of the abortion.
“for the first time ever more of the working class voted Tory than voted for Labour”
The actual evidence – both recorded and by those of us who were actually talking to real voters on the doorstep during, and twelve months prior to, the 2019 election – does not support this evidence free bullshit claim, Billy.
People from the working class in those red wall constituencies and elsewhere voted for the Party that they perceived were going to deliver on the 2016 Brexit vote. The fact that this was the Conservative Party rather than the Labour Party was down to the ambiguity of the position of the Labour Party on the issue.
An ambiguity led and driven by Kier Starmer which represented yet another deliberate undermining – along with the anti-Semitism attacks – of the leadership of the time designed, as with the 2017 election, to lose the election in order to get the Zionist Trilateral Commission supporter of the Establishment Oligarchy, Kier Starmer into the leadership of HM Loyal (to whom and what?) position to maintain the status quo.
You can belly ache all you like about this reality. You, by your own claims, were not here on the ground experiencing the results of your hero’s undermining of the party’s position on Brexit and its impact on the doorstep. You, Billy, were not getting your ears bent day in day out on the doorstep, or in the street, or in the community on this issue. It was clear twelve months prior to the election that this issue was going to lose the election for the Labour Party in 2019 and this proved to be the case for that reason.
People wanted Brexit done. Johnson was promising that. Starmer, and his acolytes – of which our Tinge MP Angela Smith was one – were pushing for another referendum. They were even holding rallies on the matter in cities up and down the country in the run-up to the election.
The spurious evidence free implication that this was down to Corbyn rather than Brexit and the ambiguity (and I’m being kind in using that term) driven by Starmer does not stand critical scrutiny. Even then, the Corbyn led Labour Party in 2019 achieved more votes than the Starmer led “Labour” party in 2024.
As previously explained to you in Janet and John terms, the largest voting block since the turn of the millennium remains none of the above. Which is why 80% of those eligible to vote did not vote for Kier Starmer’s fake ‘Labour” Party in 2024.
And this will remain the case and even increase until an alternative to the same failed and collapsing TINA paradigm pursued by both main parties, the Orange-book driven Lib-Dems, the SNP and the ever-changing lumpen right wing of UKIP/Brexit/Reform corporate entity led by the city carpetbagger Farage, is available.
If you wish to peddle such discredited claims and narratives, there are plenty of echo chamber safe spaces for the deluded such as yourself out there on the internet. Perhaps you would feel more at home in such kindergardens than with the grown-ups.
Well done Croydon, & Liverpool Community Independents & welcome!
We had a great initial gathering of Your Party supporters in my city (120 in person) but to be inclusive we also offered a Zoom option (49 on line).
Most of the time we broke into small groups of about 10 so people felt comfortable to talk & contribute.
We each introduced ourselves (is good to break the ice by getting people to speak) then each person said what they hoped for from YP.
We later broke into small groups again by constituencies in my city to meet & start organising & we now have a Whats App Group for each Parliamentary constituency here.
This is important as YP might not be
launched until Nov/Dec & only 4 months to get volunteers to stand for council in May 2026 plus to get agents plus to draw up a leaflet & manifesto & fundraise; we can do it if we are dynamic & we have no longer have bloody Right Wing Labour members to hold us back!
Some of us felt we could start now with YP stalls at community festivals & on high streets & one genius suggested having large cardboard cut outs of Jeremy & Zara at them for public selfies & an instant visual connection!
Finally I need to share a personal story tonight, on the bus home I saw an Indian couple & the man had a baby in a baby carrier but with the tiny child’s face close to his chest; I was concerned & cared and wanted to intervene & say something to possibly help the baby and the parents (as far as I’m aware many women stopped doing this a while ago) but as a white man felt in a difficult situation so a plea to all diverse citizens out there please take care re this and get advice from health workers or search on line.♥️
Has been a hectic as hell but superb week building Your Party (I actually like the Your Party name or perhaps Transform as my 2nd choice) but Hope & a Transformation plus support for the oppressed in the world whenever we can are now back on the agenda.
♥️☮️⚖️Solidarity.
SH – Capital knew that the Left was divided over Brexit/Remain and I would suggest that the collection of Right Wing Lab political snakes Blair, Mandelson, Starmer et al met in a posh London restaurant to plan the nuclear option – deliberately losing the election (2nd PV) to get rid of Corbyn as they couldn’t beat him & us on IDEAS.
And the politically Grotesque were happy to allow millions of diverse w class people to be hammered by Johnson & the Tories to achieve their ends.
If I had been JC I would have called a Leadership ballot as things were going I was not prepared to let millions of diverse w class people suffer and would have said:
We are going to Back Brexit and Build a Left Wing Democratic Socialist Society.
Back Me or Sack Me!
Bazza – Given that a clear majority of Labour Party members were in favour of remaining in the EU perhaps he’d thought about trying that one and (surprise,surprise) decided against it.
Anyway, I think the party should call itself ‘Enough’
‘Enough’ of being bled white by the already rich-as-croesus global elites, and the corporates.
‘Enough” of the pointless warmongering that enriches nobody else but these same rodentiae
‘Enough’ of corporate law superseding common law
And make sure everyone has ENOUGH to live relatively comfortably on.
(Add your own ‘enough’ example if you have one).
And with that, I bid y’all goodnight.
“‘Enough’ of being bled white by the already rich-as-croesus global elites, and the corporates.
‘Enough” of the pointless warmongering that enriches nobody else but these same rodentiae
‘Enough’ of corporate law superseding common law
And make sure everyone has ENOUGH to live relatively comfortably on.”
Or, to put it another way:
A society in which the demos controls capital, rather than capital controlling the demos.
A society operated on the basis of a non-zero sum paradigm rather than a zero-sum one.
A society not operated on the basis of a few must “win” everything by ensuring everyone else loses everything.
A society which bases its success criteria on variables such as cleaner water, reliable power/energy, affordable food, housing, and healthcare, quality infrastructure and eliminating poverty rather than corporate profits, stock markets, corporate growth and trickle-down economics.
Fortunately, there is a blueprint. A good example, as it were, already up and running in terms of a paradigm operating to such criteria:
https://archive.ph/ljJwA
“Labour has lost almost 200,000 members in the past five years, according to the party’s latest annual accounts.”
“Lost”?
It would be interesting to compare and contrast the number of membership losses due to trumped-up discipline charges, expulsions etc over the period 2015-2020 and 2020 – 2025 and those who left in disgust at the Starmer Regime’s total servitude to the Corporate oligarchy and other foreign interests which are not in the interests of the country and the populace as a whole.
Dave – Here is an extract from a pdf report that I downloaded from the Labour Party’s website at the beginning of 2020 that provides half the answer to your query.
Labour Party Disciplinary Processes on Antisemitism – Statistics
This update shows quarterly breakdowns of actions taken, at different stages of Labour’s disciplinary processes, on all antisemitism cases. Consistent and comprehensive recording of antisemitism complaints began in 2018. Earlier data has been compiled retroactively
As a result of increased resources, improved practices and investigatory techniques:
• The Labour Party expelled 45 members in relation to antisemitism in 2019, compared to 10 in 2018 and 1 in 2017.
• After rule changes passed at Conference in September 2019 gave NEC panels the power to expel, twice the number of people were expelled in two months than had been expelled during the whole of 2018.
• NEC Disciplinary Panels heard 274 cases relating to antisemitism in 2019, a tenfold increase on the 28 cases heard in 2017.
• In 2019, 149 members were removed from the party as a result of disciplinary processes relating to antisemitism, either being expelled or quitting the party as proceedings progressed.
• The Labour Party suspended 296 members in relation to antisemitism in 2019, compared to 98 in 2018 – itself a big increase on the previous year
This may well come as news, Billy, but over both periods, the Labour Party Rule Book – which is revised every year following any Rule Revisions carried at Conference – along with its grievance and discipline procedures, covers a myriad of offences other than “anti-Semitism” for which suspension and expulsion have often been the result.
Although, as previously detailed for your benefit from personal experience, the process is far from objective – with those cases which the decision makers want to process being fast tracked and those they don’t want to process being ignored or getting lost (usually multiple times) with no investigation.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to sit down for a while and familiarise yourself with these processes, procedures, gerrymandering and shenanigans before going off half-cocked.
“Labour has lost almost 200,000 members in the past five years, according to the party’s latest annual accounts.”
https://archive.ph/ljJwA
“Lost”?
It would be interesting to compare and contrast the number of membership losses due to trumped-up discipline charges, expulsions etc over the period 2015-2020 and 2020 – 2025 and those who left in disgust at the Starmer Regime’s total servitude to the Corporate oligarchy and other foreign interests which are not in the interests of the country and the populace as a whole.
But but but corbyn LOST 90k members, dontcha know?
And the gawp’s convinced about that, despite corbyn leaving the party with 2.5 times MORE members than when he became leader.
But what else can you expect from a divvy that believes 17.4 is LESS than 16.1?
Toffee – NEC elections are very useful for giving us accurate membership numbers, as under the rules only paid up members get to vote. NEC election electorate numbers give us the most clear picture of committed membership at each point they are held.
July 2017 – 538,606
November 2017 – 525,779
June 2018 – 506,320
November 2019 – 430,359
January 2020 – 552,835
August 2020 – 495,961
Toffee – . ” But what else can you expect from a divvy that believes 17.4 is LESS than 16.1? ”
Oh dear, I see you’ve had to resort to making stuff up again.😞
I’m quite certain that I’ve never claimed that, you are of course welcome to try and prove me wrong. 🙄
Why, oh why do you keep doing this to yourself? 🤔
ps: Is this the BREXIT that you voted for, are you pleased with the outcome?
Corbyn was elected as leader before 2017, Billy. Consequently, your stats are missing two years or so at the beginning and the period after 2020.
Also, as previously pointed out on this thread, those stats you quote hide:
a) the number of members expelled from the Party for a variety of disciplinary offences (additional to “anti-Semitism) up to 2020.
b) those members from the right of the Party who left voluntarily under Corbyn but who subsequently returned or were allowed back in after they flounced off and stood against the Party despite this being a breach of Party Rules.
Dave – The accurate data that I have provided above was suffice to illustrate the point that I wanted to make. Please feel free to fill in ‘the gaps’ that you perceive and explain why your additional data makes any meaningful difference. 🤔
Dave, Good video on China and I guess this was your H.G.Wells “I have seen the future and it works” moment.
Some very good stuff but would have been good too to hear about what say & involvement citizens have there as it could be portrayed as top down and FOR?
And with Your Party I will be pushing for public ownership of Rail, Mail, Water, Energy, Buses & Airports each with a Users Councils to give workers & communities a say.
A Left Wing Democratic Socialism WITH.
……and communications – the phone network.
There was a reason Post Office Telephones was nationaslised in 1912. It was because the network was fragmented to a point of anarchy by too many competing companies, making an effective integrated network system practically impossible.
We have a similar situation today – and it is the same in the other utilities you list – where the whole is less rather than more then the sum of the parts for this very reason.
Alex, at the old Yorkshire Ranter site, explains the problems inherent in the current model:
https://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2018/01/31/in-the-eternal-inferno-fiends-torment-ronald-coase-with-the-fate-of-his-ideas/