Complete short-circuit leads to accusations Starmer welcomes Elphicke because she hates refugees
Keir Starmer has been rightly derided for an embarrassing, robotic and politically appalling response to a question from an ITV News interviewer about Tory defector Natalie Elphicke’s dire comments about one of her then-husband’s sexual assault victims.
Asked whether she could be said to reflect Labour values in view of her vile description of a victim as a liar, Starmer appeared unable to compute the question, let alone think on his feet and respond appropriately, instead regurgitating a clearly-scripted reply that was criticised by many as amounting to ‘well she hates immigrants, so she’s welcome:
The disgraceful performance was, quite properly, hammered by those who saw it:
Labour under Keir Starmer is a cesspit of racism, the sickest of jokes and a political disaster for this country – and he’s not even slick about it.
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In normal times this would be manna from heaven for the script-writers at Have I Got News For You? These days, however, hmm… we’ll see. Would love to see George Galloway let loose on the show to savage incidents like these, but again, we’ll see…
I remember when it used to be a satire show!
HAAAAAAAAANG ON A MINUTE 🤔
You’re not the wee gobshite, and you’re not excusing the nonce excuser.
But you posted first?!🤔
WT absolute F’s going on here??? Has the wee gobshite finally threw his hand in? 🤔
As for the nonce defender on the screen, well, he’s skirting around the issue of a sex-offender AND Tory. And with keef’s form for letting both types of the hook it’s no bleedin’ wonder, because he stands there safe in the knowledge the media dont and won’t ever bring those two facts up.
Anyway, was anyone aware his father was a toolmaker, and his mam a nurse?
” HAAAAAAAAANG ON A MINUTE 🤔” is this you furtively sneaking in a comment in the dead of night? 🤣
Yes of course it is, gobshite.
furtively sneaking in the second post on the latest thread containing comments, instead of 70% of the way down a days-old thread that very few will visit.
You should’ve given up, gobshite, but you’re compelled to make a complete twunt of yourself for whatever reason.
No need for a laughing emoji. It’s actually quite pitiful, not unlike your excuses for allowing and welcoming far right toerags into your party.
Toffee – ….and yet you obviously had no problem in finding my response (on what was self evidently still an active comments section) to the comment that you had posted just a few hours earlier . A comments section that you had posted to only a couple of hours before I posted my reply.
You were saying?
You can’t deny that Daddy produced the biggest tool in the factory! He is a shameless, amoral man. Perfect for toilet trained Mandelsons project.
Alex – I’m sorry but I haven’t a clue what you are prattling on about.
I WAS saying. That’s quite correct gobshite. Well done.
I go looking for your comments that you hide away in older threads that few look at because you have a last-word obsession . One I will deny you of, where and when possible. Like here.
Whereas you subscribe to email alerts to your posts because it’s all about you.
Still not a peep from you about keef welcoming far-right toerags, neither. Except your reckoning that: “it’ll all blow over soon”
Well guess what? People have long memories. And while we’re on the subject …green paper; whats nit to like?
Remember that? Remember you telling me to come back and say I told you so when I guaranteed it would look nothing like it does today?
Yet ANOTHER one where you’ve been proved to be the gullible useless idiot you accuse everyone else of being.
Now….YOU were saying? 😏
Toffee – You really should try a little harder to keep up. The Labour Party and the TUC (including the FBU) agreed yesterday afternoon that they will stick with the already agreed wording 😞
That’s because you are being deliberately obtuse again Billy in order to deflect from the subject.
No one is buying this line you are pushing that you don’t understand.
Everyone, including you, understands the reference used here – that your hero Herr Starmer is a willing tool of the oligarch class who you shill for.
Dave – In which case could you please help me out by explaining what Alex was prattling on about in his comment above.
Its in the final seventeen words of the previous posting in my name Billy…..
“that your hero Herr Starmer is a willing tool of the oligarch class who you shill for.”
…as you are aware because not even an goldfish is that gormless.
I expect you want your arse wiping and a change of nappy as well.
Every dog has its day. Lots of dogs get mange,tics, fleasand bark unnecessarily.
For Stevie.Tool refers to a foolish person, slangterm that refers to an insecure person, usually male, who is controlled by others. Any help?
Alex – Sorry I’ve only just this minute seen your response.
So your comment above was just silly childish nonsense. Thanks for letting me know😔
“So your comment above was just silly childish nonsense. Thanks for letting me know”
You must be very gratified, alex, to receive recognition from the acknowledged expert in that particular field:
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/03/labours-vote-share-projection-falls-on-todays-local-results-and-is-lower-than-corbyns-milibands/#comment-254660
The defection has done more damage to Labour than the Conservative Party.
Also, that puppet opening the door looks a lot like Eddie Marsan.
I have my doubts that this will prove to be the case, I suspect that the Tories tactics on this will come back and bite them.
In which case they can always defect to smarmerist toerags and be welcomed with open arms….Which appears to be the tactic of the moment.
Also, that puppet opening the door looks a lot like Eddie Marsan.
The puppet’s a far better actor.
Keir Starmer is under fresh pressure over the former Tory MP Natalie Elphicke’s defection to Labour after the president of the Trades Union Congress said her vocal support for anti-strike laws should be “incompatible” with the party whip.
Matt Wrack, who is also the general secretary of the Labour-affiliated Fire Brigades Union, has described the MP for Dover and Deal’s views as “disgraceful” after she used a parliamentary intervention in March to blame firefighters for the deaths of three people who perished during a national strike.
Wrack’s comments have been set out in a letter sent to Starmer this weekend, which has been seen by the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/12/natalie-elphicke-anti-strike-stance-incompatible-with-labour-tuc-boss
Unions, schmunions.
Right, wee Caribbean Caprine Corruptor??
What a clever use of language. It’s Lost to him he doesn’t know what a tool is.
Alex – Maybe it takes one to know one.😏
My, you are on a roll today alex.
Further recognition from the acknowledged expert in that particular field.
One more and you can put a plaque on the wall. Below an artificial weasels head would be appropriate.
I have asked these questions many times and have never received a solid reply. Who asks the questions for membership. Are they the same for all prospects and what is the bar to be carded up? I don’t know but if she went through application procedure, as I and friends who became members had to, she would fail miserably and probably not get into the Streatham conservatives. Julian Critchleys branch would have had her in a ducking stool. Poor ducks.
Starmer knows who he is playing to. Did you know that 80% of UKs total foreign born population has arrived since 1991? Tories since 2011 have waved through 47% of the total.
Starmer won’t stop it though. British business is obsessed with cheap labour as they do not like to invest in modernisation. A big clue was the ZHC walk back.
The labour party isn’t interested in you. They just want your vote. They need you more than you need them.
Yes, the Labour party’s Starmer supports each and every visa application received and approved by UK in 2022 from Ukrainians (the vast majority of whom are text-book ‘economic migrants’). https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-december-2022/statistics-on-ukrainians-in-the-uk
My fear is that the genocide-enabling Labour ‘party leader’ (or ‘OberGruppenfuhrer’ as Klaus Schwab of the WEF calls him)) will invite and approve the same levels from Palestinians once he is PM.
Wages have to be kept low and Israel needs rid of its ‘vermin’. Sir Keir will feign pretend-left support for immigrants. Three birds, one stone!
The self confessed Zionist Herr Starmer is hardly likely to pursue any policy which helps Palestinians.
Besides which the rate the Zionist extremist terrorist State is going there is every likelihood that there will not be many, if any, Palestinians left by the time the second eleven are shoehorned into what passes for Government in the UK.
Meanwhile, this just dropped into my inbox this morning:
https://theintercept.com/2024/05/10/october-7-survivors-lawsuit-palestine-hamas-sjp-protests/?
“Survivors of the October 7 attacks filed a lawsuit in U.S. federal court last week alleging links between Hamas and the pro-Palestinian student groups leading nationwide protests against Israel’s war on Gaza. The survivors claim the student groups are liable for monetary damages because of the purported terrorism links.
The lawsuit is part of a nationwide crackdown on pro-Palestine activism, especially on campus. It was filed a day after police in New York City deployed militarized forces to remove students from campus encampments protesting the war on Gaza and arrested hundreds.
Some or all of the nine plaintiffs in the suit are involved in a raft of other civil suits related to the October 7 attacks. Among the defendants they’ve pursued in court are major media organizations and United Nations agencies…..
…..The lawsuits rely on anti-terrorism laws that made it possible to bring civil cases for acts of international terrorism, including provisions around bans on material support to terrorism that have long been controversially applied. ….
….“For years, CCR and others have been warning of the abuse of broad ‘material support’ laws to shrink the space for Palestinian rights,” said Diala Shamas, staff attorney at the Center for Constitutional Rights…..
…..“The law’s provision of civil damages means that private actors — including those with seemingly endless resources — can bog you down in costly and distracting litigation,” Shamas said. “This means that Palestinians and those who support their rights become ‘high risk’ — and those who they rely on — charities, funders, banks or social media companies — are chilled from further engagement. The goal is to isolate Palestinians.””
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How long before this kind of approach is used to target not just collective organisations who challenge The Official Narrative but any individual who steps out of line?
The precedent having already been set in another context in which the Labour Party trawled Social Media to find anything they could to discipline, suspend, expel and vilify members who did not follow The Official Narrative to the letter.
I wonder how long its going to be before the penny drops for some people regarding the very real actual fascism and authoritarianism operating in plain sight in our own back yard?
……or perhaps such people are enthusiastic employees engaged in promoting such fascism and authoritarianism by excusing it at every opportunity and projecting it onto other people and peoples by misrepresentation and outright lies to attack their character.
In which case it’s likely that there’s only one way in which the penny will reach, shall we say, the terminus?
Anyone caught up in such a shitshow would have very little to worry about, they would simply counter sue ‘Jews committing Genocide ‘
Only 2% of the electorate in the Terrorist State think Israel has gone to far
The success of would depend how deep their pockets are relative to those pushing this.
“The self confessed Zionist Herr Starmer is hardly likely to pursue any policy which helps Palestinians….”
No! Cost-benefit analysis. Even he sees he is. He gets two “brownie points” (from Hitler-youth founder/leader of WEF, Klaus Schwab) by pretending to help Palestinians:
1 – UK Wages are kept low(er)
2 – Israel removes its indigenous ‘vermin’, freeing-up several USD trillion worth of gas and oil rights by ‘problematic squaters’.
Three birds, one stone.
The notion of even limited fact based approaches like cost-benefit analysis being part of the process rather than what the clueless ideologues want to hear is an intriguing one.
Given that for the past forty odd years the favoured zeitgeist across the entire Collective West has been to ruthlessly manage out of the system in its entirety all such competency (knowledge + expertise + EXPERIENCE) to the extent that the concept of organisation has been inverted from being more than the sum of its parts to less than the sum of its parts, it will be interesting to see precisely where such competency is going to be found anywhere in the system.
Never mind in sufficient quantities. The tipping point was passed a long time ago and that bolted horse cannot even be seen on the horizon with the most powerful telescope.
Normally I’d pull up a deckchair and get the popcorn and wine out to watch something like that. However, given that I currently cannot process popcorn and will shortly be barred from alcohol for three months I’ll have to make do with whatever suitable substitute is available.
No more a fan of the LibDems than the Tories or Starmer’s Labour but this comment sums it up well:
Commenting on the defection Penelope James, Liberal Democrat Parliamentary Candidate for Dover and Deal said:
“How do Labour voters feel when a Conservative MP, who has been a member of the European Research Group, a Eurosceptic and far right group of the Conservative party, has been allowed to join the ranks of Labour MPs in the House of Commons?
“This is an MP who was sending out leaflets and letters to voters in Dover & Deal right up until yesterday, asking residents to vote for her, as a Conservative MP. It beggars belief.
“Elphicke has never been politically aligned with Labour. So what has changed?
“How are her gaslighting views on migrants, her support of the Rwanda project, the dismantling of the NHS, of water companies polluting our rivers and coastlines with sewage, of the watering down of workers’ rights going to sit with Labour Party members?…”
https://kentandsurreybylines.co.uk/politics/conservatives-reach-new-low-with-elphicke-defection-to-labour/
“Elphicke has never been politically aligned with Labour. So what has changed?”
Yes indeed, Labour! Thanks PW.
How long before this kind of approach is used to target not just collective organisations who challenge The Official Narrative but any individual who steps out of line?
Already been happening for donkey’s years, Dave. Never heard of SLAPPs?
Which, apparently, the Blue Tory’s appear to be at least going through the motions of addressing:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-backs-bill-to-end-intimidatory-slapps-lawsuits-stifling-free-speech
Wonder what the stance of Red Tory’s and their screeching harpies is?
The Strategic Litigation Against Public Participation Bill is sponsored by Wayne David who is the Labour MP for Caerphilly and has to date progressed through to the ‘Report Stage’.
https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3544#timeline
Julian Assange – Volunteers Needed
Some of you may wish to get involved
“It is a mere 7 days until the historic decision on whether the UK will allow the extradition of Julian Assange to the US for publishing, will be handed down at the Royal Courts of Justice in London.
To draw attention the the upcoming court hearing two giant banners saying: Free Assange will be dropped in central London on Saturday 18 May. To make this happen we need around 30 volunteers for this day.
Date: Saturday 18 May
Time: 10.30am meeting point in central London
Finish: 11.45am
If you are in London UK and want to be part of this cool action email us at office@dontextraditeassange.com
The tube station/location will be shared the day before the action.
Make your voices heard – Free Julian Assange”
Interesting.
Billy no mates “supporting” someone whom the Ukraine has previously, in effect, denounced as a – what’s that phrase again? Ah! Yes! – “Putin ‘Supporter’ ” With all the baggage that entails.
Here’s one source among a number that were floating around at the time:
https://archive.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ukrinform-assange-refused-disclose-info-russias-aggression-ukraine.html
Say it ain’t so!
Alternatively, it could (and pigs may well fly here) be recognised that this story, like so much else of its type, is simply crude propaganda.
But then the whole bullshit narrative collapses.
Given that “Vladimir Putin is not a communist. Vladimir Putin is not even a leftist. Vladimir Putin is a fascist imperialist.” why do you continue to support him?
Billy, I’ve never said anything of the sort as you well know.
Otherwise you would have produced evidence to substantiate this claim given the number of times you have been asked to do so.
But, keep digging kid. The more you repeat this unsubstantiated lie the more damage you do to your credibility.
This really is like taking candy from a kid.
Dave – Unless you are now claiming that you oppose Putin a wannabe imperialist and his corrupt fascist regime I’m struggling to see why you have a problem.
Given that I’ve never said anything of the sort either way Billy your silly little ranting, like much else you write, is nonsense – based exclusively on what you have made up in your own head.
When are you going to actually produce evidence that I – or anyone else here – have made any such claims of ‘support’ or otherwise for your wild and entirely fictional made up caricatures?
Just how do you equate the rights of Russian speaking Ukrainians defending themselves and seeking assistance in defending themselves under the UN Charter of Right to Protect against the racism of Ultra-nationalists who cover their bodies in Nazi tattoos with “fascism” and “imperialism”?
Which is an inversion of reality backed up by evidence solely from Western sources which you have been amply supplied with. Whereas you offer zilch; nothing; the square root of bugger all in terms of evidence to support your wild and inaccurate claims.
Are we to take it that in the fantasy world of Billy no mates that the right to self defence and the right of sovereign nations to security only operates one way? Because that is what you are coming across as saying Billy.
Simply operating on the basis of if I, Billy no mates, say something is so it must be so and everyone must accept it as so with no need for substantiating evidence. A singularly exclusive approach fitting with the narrative of the minority 0.1% you are publicly prostituting yourself for.
Have you an actual argument for these claims you incorrectly and inaccurately insist I have made which is backed up with credible evidence or are you simply going to continue publicly foaming at the mouth insisting that only your version of reality is the only one and misrepresenting what everyone says to suit your own exclusive narrative?
Where’s the beef Billy? Come on. The floor is yours. Don’t be coy, show us what you’ve got rather than sitting there in the dark handling yourself.
Off-topic (again)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-69005259
£5bn less than expected spent on the NHS.
No doubt ‘frank sidebottom head’ (weasely screeching) will want that shortfall going into the accounts of the carpetbaggers he’s funded by.
Then there’s the rags (and keef’s) plans to get the sick working, despite denuding the NHS of funding to make the sick better….But apparently UK has the lowest rate of economic inactivity in the G7…
“Then there’s the rags (and keef’s) plans to get the sick working, despite denuding the NHS of funding to make the sick better”
Is Herr Starmer really going to emulate Sunak and take the issuing of sick notes off GP’s?
Say it ain’t so!
Is it really a ‘possibility’, perhaps, that he will transfer the issuing of sick notes from GP’s to the employer? Or, may-hap, an unqualified auxiliary? Some random passer by dragged from the bus queue maybe? An AI app perchance? Sub-sub-contract it out to the IDF or a pet Ukrainian with the relevant tattoo’s?
“apparently UK has the lowest rate of economic inactivity in the G7”
It won’t be long, at the present rate and on the current trajectory – given the unprecedented levels of incompetency among our so called and self-identifying ‘betters’ – before the G7 will have the lowest rate of economic inactivity on the planet:
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240513/de-dollarization-bombshell-the-coming-of-brics-decentralized-monetary-ecosystem-1118409748.html
“The Global Majority has had enough of the centrally controlled monetary framework put in place 80 years ago in Bretton Woods and its endemic flaws: chronic deficits fueling irresponsible military spending; speculative bubbles; politically motivated sanctions and secondary sanctions; abuse of settlement and payment infrastructure; protectionism; and the lack of fair arbitration…..
…..The Global Majority will instantly grasp the primary purpose of the Unit: to harmonize trade and financial flows by keeping them outside of political pressure or “rules” that can be twisted at will. The inevitable consequence translates as financial sovereignty. What matters in the whole process are independent monetary policies focused on economic growth.
That’s the key appeal for the Global Majority: a full ecosystem offering independent, complementary monetary infrastructure. And that surely can be extended to willing Unit partners in the collective West.”
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Cue futile lamentations and gnashing of teeth from those who are both incapable and unwilling to cognitively conceive and accept the inevitable: that the hubristic ‘end of history’ paradigm they are desperately clinging to like a comfort blanket is a pompous, conceited and complacent busted flush of a vanity project that is about to be deservedly confined to the dustbin of history.
SteveH14/05/2024 AT 8:56 PM
Given that “Vladimir Putin is not a communist. Vladimir Putin is not even a leftist.
Nor is keef. Yet you support him
You’ll note I didn’t quote you verbatim, deliberately omitting this:
Vladimir Putin is a fascist imperialist.
Care to hazard a guess why?
Toffee – “Care to hazard a guess why?”
Is it because you are too stupid to appreciate how dumb and gullible you are?
*sighs*
Rather than even attempt to answer the question you chose to try to insult the one asking the question.
You have nothing. You persistently bring a fart to a shit fight.
And, seeing as you made mention of gullibility…
green paper – what’s not to like?
And you’re still standing by that, when everyone everywhere now realises (if they didn’t already before) that it was yet another crock of shit from keef.
I told you so you dumb fuck.
Toffee – What’s your problem. You were the one that asked me to guess, and I gave you the only logical reason that I could think of.
If you are unhappy with my response then you are more than welcome to satisfy our curiosity and answer your own question.
Toffee – What’s your problem. You were the one that asked me to guess, and I gave you the only logical reason that I could think of.
Ah – The infamous ‘wee gobshite logic’…Which, as demonstrated, is:
Shite!! I can’t answer the question…I know, I’ll just make a speculative accusation and make it look as though I know what I’m on about.
Didn’t work. Never does. You’re still, and always WILL be, a gobshite.
And if nobody takes interest in what I have to say (as you keep telling me) then obviously that another load of bollocks as you’ve admitted I’ve piqued your curiosity – it’s there in his Majesty’s black and white!!
You’re really not very bright.
Now, run along and do something as futile as post on here and expecting people to believe you…Like your abominable attempts at fathering that race of fauns you think you can create by (un)natural methods of conception.
Off you pop…
Toffee – I’m not the one who can’t answer his own question
Nice try, knobhead. Won’t work.
How do you keep an imbecile in suspense?
(Dunno why I’m asking an imbecile that 😕 )
So you’d best ‘reason’ otherwise and come up with an answer as to why I didn’t quote your Putin/fascist drivel…
Toffee – ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m not the one who can’t answer his own question.
Except I know the answer. I asked it ffs.
But you don’t. Which is why you can’t AND won’t
(Cue the: “I’ve got better things to do…” cop-out.)
Toffee – “Except I know the answer. I asked it ffs. “
Then why are you being so shy?
Prove it
He’s not dumb and stupid enough to leave his tackle exposed the way you do Billy:
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/03/labours-vote-share-projection-falls-on-todays-local-results-and-is-lower-than-corbyns-milibands/#comment-254660
However, rather than foaming at the mouth with simplistic claims backed up by bugger all try producing some evidence to substantiate your claims the way normal people do.
The floor is yours Billy. What are you waiting for? Why continue to prevaricate? Could it be that you continue to offer nothing because you have nothing to substantiate your claims?
Also, have another go at answering why I left out the Putin is a fascist imperialist bit.
After all, you’re supposedly the oracle. You’re meant to be the one gifted with perspicacity, while we’re the ‘great unwashed’ im dore need of your enlightenment.
So come on, play the ball…Tell everyone why I left that out. It’s really quite obvious .
Ah well, nevermind. We’ll let others draw their own conclusions, eh?
Now then, I see at PMQs today, keef was expressing concern at early prisoner release and the danger to the public they may pose. Child sex offenders (no less) in particular.
Strange that, because keef wrote the sentencing guidelines** that have ensured that nonces – quite possibly more than any other type of offenders – aren’t even jailed. That’s despite the shockingly high rate of recidivism.
Call me cynical, but anyone’d think there’s a general election coming soon.
**And sunak should’ve yelled that out at the despatch box
Toffee – Oh dear 😞
Are you referring to the upper and lower sentencing limits that the government sets for each offence type before passing them on to the Sentencing Council for them to codify?
The Sentencing Council are restricted to working within the parameters set by the government
It has been pointed out to you before that you really should familiarise yourself with the respective roles of the Sentencing Council and the government before commenting further. Unfortunately you can only lead a horse to water.
Toffee – ps, It was 2:15am here when you posted your 7:15am comment and I was fast asleep.
PLUS
I’m sorry but I honestly can’t think of another answer, are you having a problem answering your own question?
Do let us know when you’ve managed to come up with one.
Oh,ok. If you say so, gobshite.
I’ll just leave this here
https://labourheartlands.com/sir-keir-starmer-and-emily-thornberry-accused-of-hypocrisy-in-labours-attack-ads/
Toffee – As I said above, I’m not the one who can’t answer his own question.😔
As for your link, have you ever wondered why this has never gained any traction?🤔
Here’s a quote from the Sentencing Councils website
“Parliament is responsible for bringing in laws by producing legislation. Parliament has introduced maximum and minimum sentences for criminal offences. For example, it set down in law that a person can get the maximum of seven years for theft or a life sentence for rape. Minimum sentences have also been introduced by legislation, such as a minimum of five years in prison for certain types of gun crime, and a minimum of three years when someone is convicted of a third domestic burglary. Parliament has created and set rules about different types of sentences and when and who they can be given to. For example, there are differences in the kinds of sentence that can be given to adults and under 18s. It has also introduced principles such as offenders being released on licence half way through a prison sentence and that there should be a reduction in sentence for a guilty plea. Parliament also has a body called the Justice Committee that looks at the policies of the Ministry of Justice, the money it spends and how it is
Parliament DO NOT direct which crime a defendant is to be tried under; nor do they direct judges on what sentence to pass. Nor do they decide on weight of evidence to proceed with prosecution , nor those things based on aggravation/mitigation or outside influences eg current prison population numbers/spaces available etc.
‘codify’ just FUCK RIGHT OFF.
End of discussion, knobhead.
nor do they direct judges on what sentence to pass
unless, of course, in the event the offence carries a MANDATORY sentence
….Although they cannot retrospectively administer a mandatory sentence.
So don’t make out as though keef’s hands were tied, when he discussed, wrote and was signatory to those guidelines – because they weren’t.
Toffee – Oh dear, have you run out of anything sensible to say again?
It’s called the ‘separation of powers’ and most sane people regard this as a good thing. Although some are legitimately concerned that in recent years various Tory Home Secretaries have attempted to apply undue influence on various parts of your crime and justice system (eg, the policing of the Gaza marches).
However it is the government/parliament that decides what is and isn’t an offence and how precise that legislation is (or isn’t) drafted. It is also the government that sets the maximum and minimum sentences that are applicable to a group of crimes. It is there in black and white for all to see.😉
Politicians having a go at nonces! Not in the bars a d tea room, surely
There was a very close run vote on Monday night.
https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/london-playbook/by-the-smallest-of-margins/
So?
WHY’S keef getting aerated about stalkers, domestic abusers, but especially paedophiles getting released early, given his record as DPP??
(Were you aware he was DPP? I’m sure he might’ve mentioned it, in passing)
Let’s not forget, keef didn’t even want the name of a paedophile released to the public, nevermind him writing, agreeing to, and being a signatory on the sentencing guidelines that far more often than not see the animals free to walk the streets instead of actually going to jail in the first friggin place.
AND he allowed dewey to resign from the party instead of dismissing the vermin outright.
But hey!! Keef – for possibly the first time on his tenure – DIDN’T whip his MPs to ABSTAIN this time.
And – irony of ironies – the Tory that got it over the line was perhaps the exact same one that indulges in blaming the victims of her own sex-offending, RAPIST (ex)husband. .
And you’ve brought that to our attention with the intention that we should somehow thank keef for admitting elthick into his revolting clique.
Which is the same as the likes of rees-smog telling us we should celebrate food banks opening up all over the place
You sadsack.
Toffee – [Keir] “being a signatory on the sentencing guidelines “
As Keir was no longer a member of the Sentencing Council when these guidelines were issued I doubt that Keir would have been a signatory to them. I suggest that you check the time-lines for these sentencing guidance.
You obviously have no idea about the make-up of the Sentencing Council or its function. There is plenty of info available online. I suggest you educate yourself.
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/12/video-starmer-mocked-for-robotic-reply-to-elphicke-sex-victim-is-a-liar-question/#comment-255038
Oh, ok nonce excuser-excuser.
The article I linked to paints an entirely different picture. I suggest you READ the article and WATCH the video contained within it.
It quite clearly states that keef signed off on the guidelines after AGREEING to them.
Thornberry can’t even tell us how many nonces get jail…that’s easy enough.
The answer is NOT ANYWHERE ENOUGH. Go to any court on any given day…The nonces will ALWAYS be the ones most leniently dealt with – thanks to keef’s guidelines.
And then consider that keef’s already been castigated for nonce trials going askew especially where the victims had accepted alcohol/drugs while under age. A MAJOR factor in grooming cases collapsing.
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Guidelines, see?
All under keef’s DPP tenure…. One of the many reasons he had to make a snivelling, worthless apology for.
And now, long after he’s been gone as DPP (did you know he was DPP? I’m sure he’s mentioned it before now)
One has to wonder what his reason was for allowing the nonce dewey TO RESIGN instead of dismissing him outright? Where was his outrage THEN?
Nowhere, that’s where. Jed have preferred it to have been brushed under the axminster.
BUT
Glue your hand to the tarmac = keef wants you to cop 10 Years
Make an honest mistake on your benefit claim = keef wants you doing 10 years.
Nonce a child = keef says wag a finger and scold the nonce…And if the child took sweets of them, just roll your eyes and tut.
That’s keef’s idea of justice. And you countenance AND excuse that