How the case developed that ended with uni lecturer James Wilson’s hard-fought win in court after smears put him and his family in danger – and saw LAAS director Newbon commit suicide
Last week, university lecturer James Wilson won £30,000 in damages from two defendants, James Mendelsohn and Edward Cantor, who had contributed to a smear against Wilson by a third ‘antisemitism campaigner’, Peter Newbon, that put the lives of Wilson and his family at risk. Newbon, a director of the right-wing pressure group ‘Labour against Antisemitism’ (LAAS), was a defendant in the case but died by suicide, after a row with his wife, before the case was concluded. The judgement in the Wilson case revealed that Newbon had ‘concealed’ the case from his wife
The case never involved much-loved Jewish author Michael Rosen. However, Newbon’s fellow ‘campaigners’ have tried hard to associate Newbon’s death with Rosen because Rosen dared to complain about the antisemitic doctoring of his famous children’s book, Bear Hunt, in a social media post by Newbon used to attack former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. The coroner presiding at the inquest into Newbon’s death made no such connection, nor even mentioned Rosen throughout the proceedings, but this has not stopped the trolls’ efforts.
For readers unfamiliar with the Wilson vs Mendelsohn et al case, below is a timeline showing the chronology of the smears and the subsequent legal victory:
- Nineteen months before August 2020: a confrontation takes place at Wilson’s children’s school with ‘Mrs A’. The trial judge has ruled that Wilson was blameless, but A posts a picture and libellous claim to Facebook
- August 2020: Wilson disputes with Newbon on Twitter about the so-called ‘IHRA definition’ of antisemitism – a definition that has been heavily criticised, not least because it doesn’t define, is used to suppress criticism of Israel and enables false accusations of antisemitism – by Jewish legal experts in the UK and even by its original author, Kenneth Stern
- August 2020: in a manoeuvre typical of so-called ‘antisemitism campaigners’, Newbon resorts quickly to ad hominem personal attacks and responds with libellous claim that Wilson is a ‘freak who takes photos of kids’
- August 2020 onwards: Wilson tries to negotiate with Newbon to remove the libel and warns that he will sue if it is not taken down
- Around August 2020: Newbon’s university employers warn Newbon that he is in breach of the university’s social media code
- November 2020 Newbon gets into dispute with another person on social media – and receives a second warning from university
- Around the same time, Newbon also becomes involved with the so-called ‘University Antisemitism Map’ which targets academics who criticise Israel or dispute the right-wing claim of ‘Labour antisemitism’, labelling them antisemitic and identifying their place of work so collaborators can target their employment. Newbon contacts one institution with an allegation about an employee – the employee is exonerated by institution
- May 2021: Newbon posts a doctored screenshot of a famous ‘tweet’ that originally showed Jeremy Corbyn reading ‘Bear Hunt’ to a group of children. The book held by Corbyn has been photoshopped to make it appear that Corbyn is reading from a notorious antisemitic text, ‘The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion’. The image is accompanied by a parody of the words from the Bear Hunt book
- May 2021: numerous Twitter users object and write to Newbon’s university, whose name is displayed on his Twitter profile. Rosen is informed of the tweet and comments publicly that the doctoring was an antisemitic thing to do. The university says it will take action
- May 2021: As revealed during the subsequent Wilson case, Newbon prepares an apology to be issued to Rosen, then withdraws the apology and starts legal proceedings, presumably having been advised by lawyers that he has a case against Rosen
- December 2021: Newbon escalates by issuing a ‘Particulars of Claim’, the formal opening of a libel case, in which he accepts that Rosen is ‘in’ the tweet but claims Rosen is not the target, as the target is Corbyn who is reading Rosen’s book to children in the image. Rosen prepares defence
- January 2022: Newbon ends his own life after a row with his wife
- January 2022 onwards: Rosen is blamed for Newbon’s death by various parties either by implication or actual accusations. In articles at the time, another case (ie Wilson’s) is mentioned, but not by name. Some people note that Newbon was running two cases at the same time, defending against Wilson, claiming against Rosen
- March 2022: Wilson and Newbon’s wife settle Newbon’s involvement in Wilson’s case against Newbon, Mendelsohn and Cantor
- February 2023: a High Court judge rejects an attempt by Mendelsohn and Cantor to have the case against them thrown out. The pair had attempted to claim that Wilson could and should have minimised the damage they did to him by backing out earlier from the online conversation in which he was smeared. The judge described the attempt as ‘not very attractive’
- April 2023: The inquest into Newbon’s death takes place. The coroner makes no mention of either the Wilson or Rosen legal cases.
- December 2023: the Wilson v Mendelsohn, Newbon (deceased) and Cantor case leads to a four-day trial.
- April 2024: the judge’s findings are published. The judge finds against Cantor and Mendelsohn, dismissing the claims of a string of their witnesses and awarding a total of £30,000 in damages to James Wilson. In the judgment narrative, the late Newbon is described as a bully
The case also revealed interesting aspects of his conduct toward Michael Rosen and the behaviour of the trolls who have tried to exploit his death to attack Rosen. Analysis to follow.
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Excellent, timeline, Skwawkie. Thank you. Very much appreciated.
One small point – I’ve always understood Professor Kenneth Stern came out and declared the IHRA an unfinished document, warning against its use to define anti-Semitism. Am I wrong? Or did I misread that sentence, in the article?
No, you’re absolutely right GP. Kenneth Stern even wrote an article, “I drafted the definition of antisemitism. Rightwing Jews are weaponizing it” to confirm what you’re remembering/saying. https://web.archive.org/web/20231027091120/https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/13/antisemitism-executive-order-trump-chilling-effect
James Wilson’s victory at the High Court (against right-wing waponisers of anti-Semitism) MUST surely please Kenneth Stern.
Thanks, for that confirmation, qwertboi. I thought I may have missed something.
QB,thanks very much for that. I doubt that even the ADL are all aware of that. One club to be thrown aside, hopefully. Ta wobbly.
WELL DONE to James Wilson on your hard-fought win in court after smears put you and your family in danger🏆🏆🏆
Yours is an example not only of self-respect, but a vital example to ALL especially those who stand for leadership positions.
I doubt those who “attacked” you will think of doing so again.
CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN!!!
The time line of your ACTIONS to victory shows what you were up against, and you WON!!!
The usual outfit will do as they ALWAYS do, i.e. distract readers from any excellent achievement of any Socialist.
💢💢💢
🎊🏆🎊🏆🎊🏆
YOURS is an example to be celebrated!!! You took positive action!!! That you won is the much deserved icing on the came
😃😃😃
Well, that’s a good point, snw. In my view, LAAS should be investigated, then – hopefully – proscribed, but I’m not holding my breath, on that.
One has to rebut lies or one strengthens liars = MORAL HAZZARD. When the AS liars realised that they got ZERO fight back, they realised they could do as they please over snd over again. And guess what??? Astonishingly some STILL fail to learn and change. Some are STILL expecting Sir Keith and his band of disreputable AS users, who WORKED “night and day” to make what they saw as TRUE Labour lose the GE, some STILL expect them to be better than Tories in their own party.
QUESTION: Which is of more concern: rats 666 doors away or rats in your own house???
😱😱😱
Wonderful, persistent defence of what is good and 👍 true.
Hi George, yes Stern was deeply critical of his own ‘definition’ and its misuse, even though he took care to state in the document that it was ‘non legally binding’ (a point ignored by its mis-users, along with his use of ‘might be’ in the examples). But that’s what the article above says too.
Apologies for changing the topic (and especially in the first comment), but I’ve just discovered that Joel Cauchi was on medication for schitzophrenia for many years, and decided to stop taking it just prior to what he did in Sydney. From what I can gather, he’d been on it – presumably some antipsychotic drug – since he was seventeen. And if you’re not aware of it, people on such medication should never-ever come off it abruptly, and it should be done slowly and, of course, under supervision. Anyway, here’s a link to a New York Post article from yesterday that I just came across:
Parents of Sydney mall killer Joel Cauchi say he was off his schizophrenia medication: ‘He let himself down’
The parents of Sydney shopping mall killer Joel Cauchi say they are deeply torn by their son’s actions.
Speaking to media on Monday, Andrew Cauchi said his son was a “beautiful” boy, who “let himself down” when he went off his medication.
Andrew said his son had been diagnosed with schizophrenia when he was 17 for many years and had decided to come off his medication because he was feeling better.
https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/world-news/parents-of-sydney-mall-killer-joel-cauchi-say-he-was-off-his-medication/
This is by no means the first time this has happened, and someone gone on a killing spree in the days after having stopped taking their medication for some mental disorder or other.
Allan, you do know the New York Post is a Murdoch rag, similar to the S*n. The story may, or may not, be accurate, but I’d urge caution using any of Murdoch’s rags as a reference point. Even The Times, these days, or the Wall Street Journal.
No, George, I was gonna post it as a reply to my initial post, but then I didn’t bother in the end (and other media outlets have covered it anyway…. the NYP just happened to be the first one in the list of search results when I did a search after watching the following Novara Media video). Anyway, here it is from the horses mouth, so to speak. The clip starts at around 4mins 40secs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nOPaVeGy74
What reason would a Murdoch rag have to lie about it anyway?!
A good article on James Wilson’s defamation Court case, though, isn’t it?
Dear George Peel, don’t hold your breath😂😂😂
NOTE pattern since at least 2017. Every single SKWAWKBOX post of ANY positive action against +/or WINNING against Sir Keith & Co liars, saboteurs, TORY B-Side status quo parasitic infiltrators and Spy-cops within, and agents of foreign entities without… EVERY SINGLE time, up pops LONG “off topic” distractions, usually trying to produce unproductive rage. NEVER praise. NEVER celebration. NEVER positive suggestion. ALWAYS “off topic”.
You will not find a single word of praise, congratulations, nor encouragement even when someone sets out on WORTHWHILE action i.e. taking the slanders to court, SUDDENLY there is something the usual outfit “just came across”⚠️⚠️⚠️
So, DON’T hold your breath⚠️⚠️⚠️
CONGRATULATIONS to Wilson and GRATITUDE for providing yet another ENCOURAGING example to Socialist everywhere🎉🎉🎉
A really important question that needs answering is why do so many patients choose to come off their meds?
Good Question AS: A survey conducted 2007 into 2008¹ shows approximately 60% of patients with schizophrenia do not adhere to a prescribed regimen, go off their meds, or take them sporadically.
Schizophrenia sufferers in particular often exhibit “anosognosia”— a belief they do not have mental illness – and that is the main issue for them and their loved ones.
(FWIW, antipsychotic medications, such as risperidone, haloperidol, and clozapine, are now on the market, and they are often effective in temporarily relieving the worse symptoms. But when taken for extended periods, such drugs can cause uncontrollable muscle movements, serious weight gain, and a MUCH higher risk of heart attack and strooke(as do covid mRNA vaccines). Maybe the NHS and BBC should run covid-like 24/7 fear-porn campaigns like they did during the Orchestrated Deception of 2020. The 1% (schizophrenia sufferers) might appreciate it – and I’m sure the wretched Starm$er will consider it as government policy whhen he waltzes into Downing Street.
Craig Murray posted the following earlier today:
‘I Stand in Blackburn’
I shall be standing for election to Parliament as the member for Blackburn. This unexpected turn of events requires an honest declaration.
1) I am standing because of the Genocide in Gaza.
2) I am standing because of the appalling pro-Genocide stance of the Labour Party and Keir Starmer’s continued support of arms exports to Israel.
3) I am standing because the Blackburn Independent Councillors and the Workers’ Party invited me to.
The political class, including both the Labour and Tory parties, has continued to offer wholehearted support for Israel. The Tories are a lost cause, irrelevant in Blackburn and I will not waste words upon them. The Labour Party is led by Keir Starmer, a man who has declared himself an unqualified zionist, is a member of Labour Friends of Israel, who refused to oppose Israel’s blockade of food and water to Gaza, refuses to acknowledge any war crimes committed by Israel, let alone the ongoing genocide, and strongly supports the continued sale of arms to Israel.
40% of Labour’s shadow cabinet, at least, are financed by the zionist lobby.
Starmer has also expelled more Jews from the Labour Party than every previous Labour leader combined…..
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/04/i-stand-in-blackburn/
Israel defeated
Try telling that to Netanyahoo and his religious zealots, one faces dying in prison, the others want to die in a holy war
98% of the Israeli electorate support them
The question is, will the Yanks and the Banks go down with them
Who has control of Israels Nuclear weapons
Methinks
Not Biden
The idea of bibi -it means fecal matter in Moroccan slang- admitting defeat is unacceptable because he will be out of power and banged up. He is 70 so could mean life. Anyway, the alternatives are more extreme if one could imagine that.
According to recent Israeli reports the whole country wants to ignore Biden. It’s all well and good but they will soon have to see what happens when their own missiles run out. There will be an unwanted Demoncrat civil war before the election. Zelensky is still on the ponce but he is falling out of favour especially with Nuland gone. Bad days ahead for Zion and Zionists all over. Will they respond to the chess playing Persians?
This should become a great thread. Good on our skwawkie. X
Off-topic…(Yes, I KNOW)
BBC news just had a report on paedophile parents losing access/parental rights to their children (And rightly so). So, just WHO did they have on from Westminster, speaking about the issue?
…None other than PIE pederast advocate, harriet (wimmin) harman.
You’ve gotta larf, aintcha? Until you remember it’s the (paedophile infested) bbc. 😒
You are Aving a larf, aincha!
Off-topic AGAIN, but this needs highlighting.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv20p4e1zy5o
GP could be struck off after Just Stop Oil protest
FFS! As if there aren’t enough doctors at the moment, to strike one off for the heinous crime of peaceful protest.
This bastard country 😠
This is why nothing works properly in the West Toffee.
Because the rentier oligarch elites*, like spoiled toddlers, can’t cope with anyone who is not slavishly loyal to them and their fantasy Official Narratives. Which means every position of any note at every level and in every endeavour is filled by sycophantic clueless yes men and women (though you are not allowed to use that word) and anyone capable of thinking independently is hounded out in favour of half wits created in the image of the toddlers.
In short, their are no grown ups running this shit show at any level right down to even the local voluntary sector because grown ups are excluded as a default feature rather than a bug.
The result of which is an ultra-atomised pseudo society with an economy based on financialisation which no longer has any industrial and productive capacity whatsoever. Which is why the West is getting its arse handed to it by the majority of the rest of the World from the Ukraine debacle to the Near East; Africa to BRICS; economics to trade and everything inbetween.
The outcome – which is inevitable – will be brutal.
*Elon Musk apparently is set to get paid $65 billion https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/elon-musk-pay-tesla-to-ask-holders-to-reinstate-voided-stock-grant.html
It makes one want to give up but that’s what they want. Did anybody hear the gallery during Bridgens excess mortality debate? We’re relying on ex-tories to be the opposition, mind you Galloway sparked some life into the chamber.
Doctors’ trade union, BMA, tell us there’s 29,500 fewer full-time doctors working as NHS GPs today than at the start of the 2020 Lockdowns in England and Wales. Why? NHS pension threats to those (good) GPs that were unhappy jabbing patients with untested/ dangerous mRNA ‘vaccines’ for covid.
I’d say that right-wing weaponisers of anti-Semitism and the world-wide Orchestrated Deception of covid are both the same thing: measures being taken by the corporates and political elite(s) to
a), weaken and harm the working class, and
b), bring about a New World Order in which little people “own nothing but are happy” and have weaker/fewer human rights (including the Nuremberg Code principal of informed consent re medicine, etc)
Re. your BBc link, Dr. Sarah Benn’s a victim of the very same authoritarianism and slide towards fascism that Skwawky’s James Wilson story covers.
QB, great stuff. The brown shirts come in all shapes and sizes and are legion. I wish the general public could understand the danger that we are in.look at our union tops for heavens sake. There is a picture of Graham on skwawkie of Graham with her fist clenched. More winnie than Nelson. Our unions do not defend us..tassa ffs. Our pensions buy bombs. We have unelected ministers who seem to be on permanent holiday. Our media including alt/news are beyond the pale and as a nation we couldn’t care less about murdered children. Why should people vote? I’ll go independent but I am a realist.
On the subject of the ‘New World Order’/’Rules Based International Order’:
https://theintercept.com/2024/04/17/united-nations-biden-palestine-statehood/?
“Ahead of the United Nations Security Council action to consider the Palestinian Authority’s application to become a full member of the international body, the United States is lobbying nations to reject such membership, hoping to avoid an overt “veto” by Washington. The lobbying effort, revealed in copies of unclassified State Department cables obtained by The Intercept, is at odds with the Biden administration’s pledge to fully support a two-state solution.
In 2012, the U.N. General Assembly passed a resolution granting Palestine the status of a non-member observer state.
The diplomatic cables detail pressure being applied to members of the Security Council, including Malta, the rotating president of the council this month. Ecuador in particular is being asked to lobby Malta and other nations, including France, to oppose U.N. recognition.
“The U.S. position is that the Palestinian state should be based on bilateral agreements between the Israelis and Palestinians,” Gowan said. “It does not believe that the UN can create the state by fiat.”
A second cable dated April 13 sent from the U.S. Embassy in Quito, Ecuador, relays Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Gabriela Sommerfeld’s agreement with the United States that Palestine should not be recognized for statehood. In cooperation with the United States, according to the cable, Sommerfeld instructed Ecuador’s permanent representative to the United Nations José De La Gasca to lobby Japan, Korea, and Malta (all rotating members of the Security Council) to reject the proposal. Lobbying of permanent member France is also mentioned.
Sommerfeld agreed, according to the cable, that “It was important any proposed resolution fail to achieve the necessary votes without a U.S. veto.” The cable says, “Ecuador would not want to appear isolated (alone with the United States) in its rejection of a ‘Palestine’ resolution (particularly at a time when the most UN member states are criticizing Ecuador over its April 5 incursion into Mexico’s embassy in Quito).” Ecuador finds itself in an escalating conflict with Mexico over its decision to arrest the former Ecuadorian vice president inside the Mexican Embassy.”
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Think about this statement again: ““It (the USA) does not believe that the UN can create the (Palestinian) state by fiat.”
Is that not exactly what the UN did in creating the State of Israel on 29 November 1947 under Resolution 181 – which, by the way also created the Arab State of Palestine.
Nobody does hypocrisy quite like the Western elites and their sycophantic cheerleaders.
Democracy is the least worst system, its corruption is clearly far to easy and cheap
Deterrence like the nuclear option is totally useless
All it would take is what local magistrates will occasionally indulge in, purely to send out a message to all miscreants in the community, they will throw the book at a relatively minor offender
The message is simple, it could be you
My preference would be to send our favourite war criminal to the Hague and bankrupt him at the same time
Give the rest of them a month’s notice of imminent arrest, to allow them all to move to that well known safe haven ‘Rwanda’
On the subject of “democracy” – as defined by Western elites.
This rant was posted on reddit two days ago by former UK Prime minister Boris Johnson:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1c6adit/ua_pov_if_ukraine_falls_it_will_be_a_catastrophe/
“If Ukraine falls…..it will be the end of Western Hegemony.”
– Boris Johnson
Out of the horse’s mouth.
– It is not about democracy.
– It is not about human values.
– It is not about freedom.
What it is about is the Western elites being the biggest, baddest and bestest in order to Lord it over the entirety of life on this planet. To take everything, including life itself, and give nothing.
The selfishness and greed is off the scale.
And there are those who frequent even this site who are prepared for themselves and everyone else to die in ditch to continue this failing, dead end, unworkable, murderous, genocidal Western elites Hegemony.
This must be what the late Bob Marley mean by ‘mental slavery’.
I was under the impression that the corrupt fascist Putin wasn’t very keen on protest songs and that he mercilessly crushes anyone who isn’t slavishly loyal to him and his fantasy wannabe imperialist ambitions.😏
Is projection all you’ve got Billy?
Answer the question you have consistently run away from if you’ve got an ounce of honesty in you;
Are the Russian speaking people of the Donbass entitled to self defence and assistance under the UN R2P provisions against the nazis you deny against all evidence exist? Against attacks against civilians officially recorded by the OSCE. Or do you, like the Western elites you shill for, pick and choose for your own retarded convenience ?
And if not why not?
Which is it Billy?
Pretending this is all down to one individual is simply puerile and refusing to deal with the practicalities.
Particularly when the reality, the evidence and the facts are, for example, that head of NATO Stolenburg is on record as conceding that the conflict started with the illegal Western backed and financed Maidan coup in 2014 and not in February 2022; whilst both Merkel and Hollande are on record as admitting the West were not serious about the Minsk agreements – seeing them as an opportunity to rearm their nazi proxies in the Ukraine in order advance the Imperialist inspired Rand Report objective of breaking up the Russian Federation to steal its resources.
Its over kid. Even half wits like Boris Johnson are pressing the panic button on behalf of the dead in the water five hundred year old Western hegemony. Get used to it.
Dave – Hopefully your hero the corrupt fascist dictator Putin and Netanyahu will end up seeing out their days from behind bars in The Hague for the war crimes they are responsible for.
” According to The Times of Israel, Tel Aviv fears “the arrest warrants would be sought on the basis of the humanitarian crisis in Gaza”.
Israeli officials convened for an “emergency discussion” on Tuesday to address the potential issuance of arrest warrants by the International Criminal Court (ICC) against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli political and military leaders for alleged violations of international law in Gaza, Israeli media reported.
Citing a report by Israeli Channel 12, The Times of Israel said that three ministers and several government legal experts convened for the “emergency discussion” at the Prime Minister’s Office to address the looming threat of such arrest warrants.”
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/israel-fears-icc-arrest-warrants-over-gaza-war-crimes-what-we-know-so-far/
Billy, that’s a very long winded way of tacitly admitting that:
1. You do not accept that the Russian speaking peoples of the Donbass have the right to self defence and assistance under R2P against the the Western based recorded murder of their civilians by the Western backed knuckle dragger’s our elites installed in Ukraine.
2. You have no problem with the Western double dealing on the Minsk agreements nor the published Rand report seeking to interfere in another sovereign state by breaking it up and stealing its resources to maintain the hegemony of the parasitic Western elites you shill for.
That’s a very peculiar and singular definition of fascism you are operating to. How much are you being paid for this nonsense?
Dave – But you’re the gullible numpty who is supporting the corrupt fascist Putin. 🥱
You’re living breathing proof that the Horseshoe Theory is no longer just a theory.
Billy – In addition to being a slightly more succinct way of admitting that your position is that the sovereign state (under the still internationally legal extant- ie de jure – Treaty of Westphalia) of the Russian Federation and its people do not have the right to self defence, and you have no problem with the actual imperialism and fascism of the Western elites you are acting as a shill for…..
……The logic of your little temper tantrum rantings is that if “The Putin” bogyman was not there then the people and the sovereign state of Russia, along with the Russian speaking people of the Donbass and Crimea would not defend themselves in any way but would roll over and let the Western Oligarch class, whose arses you are enthusiastically licking, break them up, treat them the same way as the Israeli Zionist State treat not just the Palestinians but anyone and everyone considered goyim, and steal their resources.
Just like they did when their drunken comprador puppet Yeltsin was running things for them.
[***Sarcasm alert***] Its a piss poor “fascist” and “imperialist” that sticks to agreements like Minsk one and two whilst letting the non-agreement capable Western elites break those agreements at will. Who refuses not once, but at least twice to recognise the pleas of fellow neighbouring Russian speaking populations for recognition and support in their defence under the international right to Protect laws. Preferring instead a diplomatic rather than military approach.
Which, unlike the Western elites, is what “The Putin” actually did. You really should be careful what you wish for, Billy. Because if “The Putin” bogyman were not there a far more robust approach would have been taken by the Russian Federation and its people – contrary to the fantasy expectations of those you shill for.
In this regard all you are doing is regurgitating an emotionally driven Official Narrative based on fantasy rather than practical reality. You have no evidence whatsoever to substantiate this position. Little wonder you are unable to answer the questions which have been repeatedly put to you and are having to rely on projection.
Which is the reason why the Collective Western elites are having their arses handed to them not just by the Russians but the Chinese, the Global South and the rest of the world who have finally, after half a millennium of plunder and multiple genocides by those you toady for, have said enough. Its over.
And, as Boris Johnson inadvertently let slip in his little rant the Western self-styled and self-identifying ‘elites; have no one to blame but themselves. Though not in the way he thinks he means.
Whats your excuse Billy?
I had you down as cold and unimaginative. But you’re really quite emotional aren’t you.
Dave – 🥱
PS, “you are living breathing proof that” Bonhoff’s stupidity theory….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc
…”is no longer just a theory.”
Dave – “Dietrich Bonhoeffer argued that stupid people are more dangerous than evil ones. This is because while we can protest against or fight evil people, against stupid ones we are defenceless — reasons fall on dead ears. Bonhoeffer’s famous text, which we slightly edited for this video, serves any free society as a warning of what can happen when certain people gain too much power.”
You are the one who still supports Putin and continues to proselytise his propaganda despite knowing that the ICC has issued an arrest warrant for him (for abducting and trafficking children FFS) and that Putin maintains his hold on power through fear, imprisonment, torture and murder so that he and his cronies can continue to enrich themselves by stealing from the Russian people.
How stupid does that make you?🤔
Billy, you are living a fantasy based on a false narrative. Defining and misrepresenting others to suit your convenience.
Thus, any reference to the Russian people, the Russian Federation, Russian speaking people murdered by the well documented and evidenced neo-nazi regime in Kiev, is redefined as “The Putin” bogyman or “Putin Propaganda” – regardless of the fact that the facts and evidence presented to you are from Official Western sources (including the well documented and up to the present day details of the neo-nazi nature of the Kiev regime).
As though no one else has any agency and its all down to one individual. How very Thatcherite, and even Randian, in a no such thing as society sense. Just which of us here is actually operating under the Horseshoe paradigm.
So here’s another test which everyone here knows you will flunk and run away from. All the arguments I and others have put forward on this subject has been in reference to the societies involved and the people which make up those societies. Whether its the Russian speaking peoples of the Donbass and Crimea or those of the Russian Federation. At no point, other than recent direct responses to your own fantasy narrative, has “The Putin” been mentioned by myself or anyone in this regard.
Moreover, all the sources have been official Western ones.
So go find anywhere in which “The Putin” has been mentioned rather than the people subject to the Exceptionalist no rules order you are shilling for. Or non-Western sources. You won’t find either. Its all in your own head as a weasel way of avoiding the difficult reality based questions you are unable and incapable of facing up to.
Even to the extent of redefining the admission by Western leaders such as Merkal and Hollande over Minsk; the Western controlled OSCE data on the attacks by the Kiev regime on civilians in the Donbass; and the head of NATO’s statement that the current conflict in Ukraine began in 2014; as “Putin propaganda”
That’s some real desperation going on there Billy. Tell us you are getting paid for this nonsense.
Well quelle surprise!
Once again its all gone quiet over there.