A survey of manifesto policies of the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn has revealed that not only are they hugely popular with UK citizens, but they enjoy massive support from residents of European countries – and even, in many cases, of people in the US.
The questionnaire presented respondents with nine ‘Corbyn policies’ and found they met with overwhelming approval in almost every instance, as the abundance of green below immediately makes clear:
SKWAWKBOX comment:
Corbyn’s policy platform is enormously popular –
and as we saw during the 2017 general election campaign his personal appeal is huge as soon as the public is allowed to see it unfiltered.
No wonder Labour’s policies barely get a mention in the Establishment media, while the personal attacks on him by the media and his political opponents are relentless.
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Do I see the ‘YouGov” logo? Must be fake news 🙂
Actually this isn’t ‘across Europe’ – it’s essentially the wealthy north. But it does suggest that there is a coalition to be made *within the EU* for progressive policies.
Yes that is a good opportunity. However, will probably pass the UK by as they cannot wait to get out of the EU.
Skwarky, please stop playing the ‘smoke and mirrors’ game. Most of us in the Labour Party already know and accept that, thanks to Jeremy Corbyn, our policies are equitable and well liked. However because of our (shambles) Brexit ‘policy’ if we had a GE now, we would lose.
We have to stop trying to steer some mythical ‘middle way’ and remain the ‘Remain’ Party. We need to be honest with people and tell them that Brexit, a right wing obsession, will be an unmitigated disaster for the country. We know for a fact that the referendum vote was only swung, with massive amounts of finance from Arron Banks, in ‘Leave’s’ favour, by exploiting the immigration card and that only roughly a third of the electorate voted for it.
The majority of the membership know this is correct and it is about time the Leadership got on board.
There are two remain parties in England: The Greens and the LibDems. I suggest you join one of them.
Telling people the Brexit “will be an unmitigated disaster” is fortune telling.
People didn’t decide to vote because of referendum literature, they knew how they were voting the minute the referendum was announced. Propaganda over the last 40 years played its part but it was a democratic decision.
Please stop saying “only a third of the electorate voted for it”, no one gives a shit.
If the “majority of the membership” think like you, they are out of step with the British people. The leader of the party made it perfectly clear he would respect the outcome of the vote and though he is a remain supporter, he has kept to his word.
You are out of step with everyone.
“There are two remain parties in England: The Greens and the LibDems. I suggest you join one of them”
Ah! the banner of certain defeat is raised as a matter of inviolable principle from the Leftory camp!
Indeed, the Greens and the LibDems have adopted that obvious progressive policy. But, thankfully, the Labour *Party* has also done the same, in effect – even though the leadership is being granted time get there, too.
RH, I just posted the following comment on another thread (from yesterday) about thirty minutes ago, but having now come across this discussion, I’ll re-post it here:
If there was a second referendum – which realistically seems most unlikely to happen – and the result was the same again, would that be the end of it as far as YOU are concerned, AND the people you know who feel the same way as you do about the present situation?
The key thing is though that if we did – one way or another – end up remaining in the EU, or rejoining in the near future, would a Jeremy Corbyn government (in the event of one being elected) be able to carry out his/their program of renationalisation? (I realise that in such an eventuality we then still have the Blairites to deal with, who would undoubtedly do all they can to sabotage such a program).
PS And please don’t think I’m being combatative – I have no axe to grind either way – and I’m just sincerely interested to hear what you – or anyone else for that matter – has to say re the above questions.
I’d block these PV trolls on the grounds that they’re getting boring and suspiciously straight out of the blocks; they’re probably being quite well paid and working out of an old warehouse in Scotland or an office above Burnley Football Club. Interesting to see Avaaz popping up in the twitter feed too – that’s another poorly disguised CIA front. God knows how much they’re all spending to tell us how much someone else spent two and a half years ago (with regard to Soros, we know of course but that’s only the tip of the iceberg). Now I know this isn’t fashionable because I’m supposed to be either stupid or gullible but I didn’t see any adverts or publicity put out or paid for by Farage or Banks and I wouldn’t piss on either of them if they were on fire; I just looked at what Osborne, Blair, Cable, Geldof, Branson, Killery Clinton and numerous other fragrant types were telling me to do – and did the opposite. To be serious for a moment, I asked what Dennis Skinner was doing, what Tony Benn would have done, read an enormous amount of literature on the subject and then voted on the basis of scientific analysis rather than fairy tales. Which way I voted I’m not prepared to divulge but suffice it to say I supported Corbyn then and support him now and what is called for is loyalty not insubordination or falling for black ops.
You are obviously not a stupid person, it obviously takes both imagination and intellect to dream up such an extensive list of completely unsubstantiated allegations.
Except Labrebisgalloise is telling the truth about Avazz, here it is from the horses mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU_K9yiZ1yk. And what he?she says is true. Why are Soros and Co spending a fortune on a desperate and unsuccessful investigation into Banks? Because you lost the referendum and nothing you can do will change that so you’re showing your desperation, ooooh Banks ooooh Putin, it’s ridiculous, get over it.
SteveH out of the blocks right on cue!
Labrebisgalloise. Your p.o.v. is a little above the IQ Level of the Remoaners whose limited mantra is to accuse socialists who want to leave the EU Monster of being right wing or ignorant. It’s the best they can do with their limited intellect & vocabulary.
I feel sure that Labrebisgalloise will appreciate your kind reassurances
“what is called for is loyalty not insubordination”
Now where have I heard that sort of shite before? The names errr,,, Adolf and Josef spring to mind amongst others 🙂
I take it you swore undying devotion and loyalty to The Great Blair??? … when he was the fashion of the day???
I do notice, BTW, that you appear not to have the names Murdoch, Barclay, Dacre etc. in your rogue’s gallery. of inveterate liars
How strange.
‘I just looked at what Osborne, Blair,… and numerous other fragrant types were telling me to do – and did the opposite…’
Good instinct, I should say, considering what Thatcher said with regard to Blair: Apparently when asked what was her greatest achievement, she replied, ‘Tony Blair and New Labour. We forced our opponents to change their minds’.
labrebisgalloise. Lest you forget, Jeremy Corbyn was a Remainer and campaigned for it but you now criticise Remainers – questionable motives to say the least! You are a clear example of why our Party is behind in the polls and at odds with the membership.
Jeremy’s voting record, in opposition to the Globalist EU Monster is a matter of record.
As is his vote to Remain in the EU.
‘As is his vote to Remain in the EU.’
At the risk of being accused of hair splitting, not quite; but rather Remain and Reform.
Stewart960130 09/01/2019 at 5:34 pm ·
“At the risk of being accused of hair splitting, not quite; but rather Remain and Reform.”
Whilst I agree with the sentiment of what you are saying if one wanted to be really pedantic then JC like the rest of us voted for either ‘Remain a member of the European Union’ or ‘Leave the European Union’. There was no mention of Remain and Reform on my ballot paper.
Blair’s ‘attraction’ was to ditch socialist values in favour of more ‘right wing’ New Labour Policies. More attractive to the ‘Centre ground’; more attractive to the bourgeoisie. Same logic. Adopt the more ‘globalist’ policies of Blair; Macron & Merkel. Questionable motives?
“You are a clear example of why our Party is behind in the polls and at odds with the membership.”
So some labour supporters/’leftists’ (ie. ones you disagree with on Brexit/EU) are the cause of Labour apparently lagging in the polls… oh dear. That’s the May Tory regime, Lib Dems and the like in other parties, ‘public service’ and corporate media, propagandist entities, wealthy powerful vested interests and pollsters off the hook then…
Why don’t you address the real issue: the demographic of the 50-150 key seats that Labour need to win to form a government dictates respect for the referendum result, regardless how you voted in 2016. The metropolitan/southern individual members of the party (as opposed to its mass working class base represented by the affiliated trade unions) cannot be allowed to dictate a path which is electoral suicide: if the party is behind in the polls it has much more to do with the Blairites operating hand in hand with the anti-socialist MSM day in, day out and attacking/undermining the best leader the party has ever had. As for Blair, I left the party when Clause 4 was rewritten; following the Iraq war crimes, I went into exile with my French partner and remain so to this day. I may come home one day but only if Corbyn becomes PM, so I take a very dim view of people who might fuck that possibility up.
Just to turn the saying round : “Just because they’re after us doesn’t mean that you’re not paranoid” i.e. stop confecting simplistic Harry Potter fantasies out of the conflicts of political reality and power.
I mean – “mass working class base represented by the affiliated trade unions”. I think you must have mistaken the door marked ‘early 20th century’ for the present. The sadness is the decline of mass political involvement/awareness in the Trade Unions, (and the consequent bureacratic detachment of the block vote) whilst the broad base of current individual membership is the Party’s strength. Do catch up with society as it is – and with the Labour Party!
“undermining the best leader the party has ever had”. I’m into politics, not North Korean-type hagiography”. I have consistently voted for Corbyn. But he has yet to prove himself as a leader. I think old middle class Major Clem is some way ahead in such premature ‘greatness’ stakes! Certainly, preventing Brexit and the consequent perpetuation of the Tory hegemony is Corbyn’s challenge, and what he will be judged by.
Your choice of living in another capitalist economy in Europe is fair enough – but not a mark of rebellion or particular radicalism. Some of us actually worked on through the Blair years to keep things going.
A statement of the obvious.
What’s the term for those thst deny the bleedin’ obvious? (Apart from ‘True BLeaver’).
What a pity that Corbyn was not allowed to make the case against nuclear weapons at the last general election.
But Trident replacement is being questioned within the Ministry of Defence and is running into serious trouble.
https://cnduk.org/royal-navy-and-mod-officials-question-future-of-trident/
The German response to utilities and privatisation is interesting, they’d rather keep everything in the private sector. German conservatism rules, while other countries who would like to run their own utilities and railways fall foul of competition law Germany will never vote to change it. So much from “changing the EU from within”.
As far as water is concerned it appears that the Germans have a similar system to the one we had in this country before privatisation. I remember the days when my local town council owned the water and sewage system outright before the Tories stole it.. I also remember when water charges were part of your rates bill.
“Responsibility for water supply and sanitation provision lies with municipalities, which are regulated by the states.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_Germany
EU law however through its liberalisation directives prohibits Member States from having public monopolies in the fields of gas and electricity and railways. And for good measure in the sectors of mail and telecommunications. 1945 style nationalisation of those sectors is entirely unlawful under EU law, and as such would be struck down by both the national and EU courts.
And forget “Remain and Reform”. Under the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union it would require the UNANIMOUS support of the Council of the EU to repeal these directives, something that is never going to happen.
This constitutionalisation of capitalism is why the huge right-wing majority in the PLP LOVE the EU.
The German state seems to go in for the ownership of rail and bus services in quite a big way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Bahn
Deutsche Bahn AG (abbreviated as DB oder DB AG) is a German railway company. Headquartered in Berlin, it is a private joint-stock company (AG), with the Federal Republic of Germany being its single shareholder.
Deutsche Bahn describes itself as the second-largest transport company in the world
‘…private joint-stock company (AG)’
Wiki, again:
Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Liechtenstein recognize two forms of company limited by shares: the Aktiengesellschaft (AG), analogous to public limited companies (or corporations in US/Can) in the English-speaking world, and the Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung (GmbH), similar to the modern private limited company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint-stock_company
Maybe you meant say ‘public limited company AG’.
Stewart960130 09/01/2019 at 5:49 pm
As it is a direct quote from the Wikipedia I had no influence over the exact wording but If you think it is wrong then I suggest you contact Wikipedia.
Although I don’t profess to have any expertise in German company law speaking from a layman’s perspective the use of the term “private” seems to be appropriate because the shares are not publicly traded.
I haven’t been to Germany since 2006 but I remember the trains were decent enough then and probably still are. It’s bizarre that the poll shows Germans (according to this poll at least) don’t really support rail nationalisation (perhaps they don’t know that their railway is already nationalised). More bizarre is the experience that passengers on Arriva Northern rail services are subjected to on a daily basis. I don’t know where it stands in a world league table of rail services but it must be near the bottom. It is of course a subsidiary of Deutsche Bahn AG, the German national rail company, who know a milch cow when they see one, especially one where the UK government happily underwrites any shareholder losses from industrial action. If that’s not one of the best arguments against globalisation and an EU that is rapidly becoming a vehicle for German colonialism/domination of the rest of europe, I don’t know what is.
labrebisgalloise 09/01/2019 at 6:01 pm
I think it is a little unfair to blame the Germans and the EU for taking advantage of this country’s commercial ineptitude. Other countries within the EU decided to maintain mixed market economies whilst the Tories decided for ideological and electoral reasons to sell off anything that would give them a short term funds to fund tax cuts. It is not the EU’s fault that so many of the UK’s voters are misguided enough to keep voting for self harm.
Insults! Give & ye shall receive.
This is a decent look at where we’re at from Keith Hussein. https://labourheartlands.com/the-month-when-project-fear-became-project-hysteria/
Thanks for that link.