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Trump vote down on 2020 – but Killer Kamala’s collapse was much, much worse

Backing genocide, two-faced campaigning on genocide and contempt to left and Muslim voters isn’t a winning strategy. But Dems attempting to blame Greens and independents with handful of votes

The Democratic party establishment in the US is attempting to blame Kamala Harris’s catastrophic loss this week – ‘achieved’ with the ‘help‘ of Jonathan Ashworth, Deborah Mattinson and other Starmeroid rejects – on Jill Stein and other independent candidates and their supposed crime of taking left votes. Stein managed around half a million votes in total.

But reality tells a very different story. In his ‘landslide’ win, neo-fascist Donald Trump’s vote actually fell by around four percent – almost three million votes.

But Harris, who tried to court right-wing voters while running a two-faced campaign on Israel’s genocide – telling Muslim voters how awful the situation in Gaza is (without saying who has caused it) and telling supporters of Israel that she’d never compromise on Israel’s ‘right to defend itself’ – collapsed by almost a fifth compared to Biden’s narrow 2020 win, a massive almost fifteen million votes lost:

Out of the hundreds of voting counties in the US, Harris outperformed Biden in literally none for most of the count, finally scraping ahead in a handful – but across the fifty states, there were ‘literally none’:

It turns out that supporting genocide and showing utter contempt for the mass of voters who want Israel’s slaughter in Gaza to end,, while hoping to peel away soft right-wingers, was not a winning strategy. Literally millions simply stayed at home – a bigger number than those who gave up on Trump. Democratic party spin-doctors are trying to blame the loss on independents and Green party candidate Jill Stein, but the numbers show this to be nothing but blame-throwing: Stein received only around half a million votes around the whole of the US, not enough to scrape the surface of Harris’s 15-million-vote collapse.

The phenomenon is similar to fellow war-crime-enabler Keir Starmer’s vote share fall in the 2024 UK general election. Starmer received far fewer votes than Labour’s last real leader, Jeremy Corbyn, achieved in 2017 and significantly fewer than in Corbyn’s supposed ‘disaster’ of 2019, but got a majority thanks to the neo-fascist Reform ‘party’ cannibalising Tory votes in almost a hundred seats, or else Starmer would have faced at best a hung parliament despite the Tories’ chaos.

Harris was not gifted a win by neo-fascists. Instead she was facing one and he was able to hold his vote together well enough to trounce her – and she has nobody to blame but herself, her ‘friend of genocide’ campaign and the Dems readiness to usher in fascism rather than put an end to genocide in Gaza, which any US president could do with a phone call.

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11 comments

  1. This was published 3 months ago, when Harris took over from Biden, but contains a lot of insight into why it then went so badly:

    Joe Biden Dropped Out…Now Let’s Talk About Kamala

    1. This after the event contribution also claims some gems within it:

      https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/11/09/trump-product-made-moral-bankruptcy-of-democratic-party/

      Not least of which…….

      “The linking between neoliberal Wokism (identitarianism) and LGBTQ propaganda to left-wing movements, is also the fault of the Democratic Party and of the social democratic parties, which have given up on universalism in favour of an atomization of identity and gender liberalization.

      Women, homosexuals, Latinos, blacks, trans people are chosen just because they are what they are, and not because of who they are as persons, as human beings. Choosing an incapable homosexual, just because he is homossexual, is a huge disservice to the homo movement, choosing an incapable woman, just because she is a woman, is a disservice to the cause of women. Someone like Von Der Leyen, being a woman, perpetuates the war. Someone like Paulo Rangel (Portugal’s Foreign Minister), being a homosexual, perpetuates war. What is the advantage that this policy brings to society? We have to eradicate discriminatory ways of doing things, not introducing others.

      Used as an opportunistic banner, wokism atomizes identity, atomizes society. Woke propaganda is used as a political banner and a sign of sophistication and mental freedom, but its effect is to convey to society that its “normality” is at stake. We can question whether or not “normality” includes other identities, but always as part of a whole, of course. The system simply has to ensure that, whatever you choose to be, you are naturally entitled to the same living conditions as everyone else.

      Instead, the Democratic Party has allowed itself to be caught up in the idea that the most important thing is to be able to assert your identity, and even to do so with outrage and pamphleteering. What matters is that you can choose to be trans, homo or non-binary, even though you may have to live on the street and without a job. This is an inversion of priorities. In order to guarantee effective freedom of choice you need first to provide the basic universal conditions necessary for survival with dignity. And not the other way around. Defending the former, to the detriment of the latter, sends out a message that means the subversion of things, which destroys the appearance of normality and the idea of social stability.

      Wokism consists of a set of principles that are the direct result of liberalization of individual identity and the possibility of choice from a set of marketed identities, in disconnection from one’s material and biological existence. In a way it means the freedom from biology and from each one’s material condition. No one has to be imprisoned anymore behind his or her biological condition, you can go beyond that, since you can choose from something like an “identity market”. It’s the application of consumerism ideology to the human biological condition. It is therefore a divisive individualism, an idealism. The Democratic Party should never embark on idealism. You don’t discuss each one’s likes, conditions or ways of life, you just have to guarantee that by choosing one or another, one doesn’t suffer discrimination in any form. The rest is up to you. By stating the difference every step of the way, you start dividing society into small tribes, breaking social links between people. So, it’s not hard to understand why, today, you find more and more bigotry.

      By introducing wokeism and exacerbated individualism in its program, the Democratic Party has contributed to the division amongst society. A more fragmented society plus harder living conditions, plus the destruction of working class grassroots organizations (substituted by CIA NGO’s), you get the ideal playground for far right populism.

      In doing so, it has allowed Trump to sell himself as the guarantor of normality. The far right sells itself as the guarantor of normality!”

      ———————————————–
      And this attack on class based politics by rebranding and relabeling a reactionary right wing approach and philosophy as belonging to the political left with the left doing a great deal of the heavy lifting to promote and impose it — is a gift to the political right as it allows those on the political right to pose as the sane ones. It makes it possible to enforce and get away with any old reactionary policies and behaviours.

  2. As Ione Belarra puts it: “Trump returns to the White House, not because of his own merits or the success of his lies, but fundamentally because of the failure of progressive lesser evilism. Reaction and fascism can only be stopped with firm and courageous advances.”

  3. This is the reaction of Ione Belarra:“Trump returns to the White House, not because of his own merits or the success of his lies, but fundamentally because of the failure of progressive lesser evilism. Reaction and fascism can only be stopped with firm and courageous advances.”
    She is the first EU politician to stand up for the Palestinians, prompting Israel to make a complaint to the Spanish government. That of course Spain ignored.

  4. Apparently, facts are supposed to be sacred:

    And, whilst everyone is entitled to their own opinion, they are not entitled to their own facts.

    And the statement from this article quoted below falls into that misleading category of picking and choosing your own “facts”:

    “collapsed by almost a fifth compared to Biden’s narrow 2020 win, a massive almost fifteen million votes lost”

    Because the whole of the facts – as compared to the partial and misleading “facts” contained in this statement – are (a) that 2020 victory by Biden was far from “narrow” as being claimed here; and (b) hide – though some might say ‘bury’ (I couldn’t possibly comment) – some very inconvenient context about the 2020 election vis a vis those from earlier this century which preceded it:

    Here are the Democrat total vote count figures for the last six elections:

    2004 Kerry – 59M

    2008 Obama – 69.5M

    2012 Obama – 65.9M

    2016 Clinton – 65.9M

    2020 Biden – 81.3M

    2024 Harris – 66.4M

    “2024 was billed as having a “record turnout” for an election both sides knew was more critical and pivotal than ever, yet its total votes cast were dwarfed by an election [2020] held during the worst health pandemic of several generations”

    – Simplicius the thinker.

    Let’s consider the aggregate voting turnout for the two sections of the Uni-party since 2004:

    2004: 121,069, 054 votes cast – Bush/Cheney = 62,040,610 – Kerry/Edwards = 59,028,444 – Gap = 3,012,166 votes

    2008: 129,446,839 votes cast – Obama/Biden = 69,498,516 – McCain/Palin = 59,948,323 – Gap = 9,550,193 votes

    2012: 126,849,299 votes cast – Obama/Biden = 65,915,795 – Romney/Ryan = 60,933,504 – Gap = 4,982,291 votes

    2016: 128,838,342 votes cast – Trump/Pence = 62,984,828 – Clinton/Keine = 65,853,514 – Gap = 2,868,686 votes

    2020: 155,507,476 votes cast – Biden/Harris = 81,283,501 – Trump/Pence = 74,223,975
    Gap = 7,059,526

    2024: 129,347,671 votes cast – Trump/Vance = 72,656,363 – Harris/Walz = 67,978,219
    Gap = 4,678,144

    Harris vote this week was over 2 million votes higher than Clinton managed in 2016 and Obama’s vote in 2012. Excluding the 2016 anomaly (in which Clinton achieved the larger popular vote but lost the Electoral Collage), the gap in terms of the popular vote, was the second lowest since 2004.

    The real anomaly was the 2020 election which, as demonstrated by the actual data facts, was (a) far from being a narrow Biden win, as claimed in this article, the second-highest gap between the winning and losing candidates since 2004 and (b) some 25 million votes higher than the average vote from all the other elections since 2008 – with the 2024 aggragate vote suddenly reverting to the level of previous elections.

    Quite where these extra 25 million votes in 2020 came from and disappeared to this time around is open to speculation.

    However, what is not open to speculation is that (a) Biden’s win in 2020 was NOT a “narrow’ victory and (b) the ‘loss’ of 15 million votes occurred in a context of a larger loss of around 25 million votes from the normal level of previous elections which suddenly appeared in 2020.

    I suspect we are going to be hearing a lot more about this in the near future.

    1. PS: Forgot to make explicit the fact that excluding that 2020 anomaly with its 25 million votes higher than the average, Trump’s vote this time around was actually the highest of all the elections since 2004.

      1. Thanks for this. That 2020 surge (which would have given Trump the popular vote victory in any of the other elections you cover) does invite investigation. There is no doubt that neither Republicans nor Democrats wanted to deviate from an unambiguously pro-Israel position but where the Dems did align themselves with positions that were humane before they were tactical (notably abortion) this had if anything a negative impact on demographic vote share. In short, it is to the shame of both parties that they felt comfortable perpetuating the Israeli slaughter.

    2. It now seems scarcely in doubt that the 2020 election was stolen. I hope Trump goes after the guilty parties and throws them all in jail. We may see a change in the tone of the MSM after this election, too, which wouldn’t be a moment too soon. (A bit late catching up but I’ve been away for 2 days.)

  5. I know the above stats are incomplete, but they suggest turnout was down nearly 18 million people – in a country with a growing population.

  6. Thank you Dave for giving us the facts .. and there is another one – Harris was
    “caught on the hop” and never had the chance to get her act together.

    If Biden had decided not to stand when it was apparent his powers and popularity was
    waining Harris might have had a chance to put forward her own points of view. As it was
    – she did include the plight of the Palestinians at the end of one of her speeches. Whatever
    Biden possessed in terms of political skills and aptitude quickly became depleted during his
    Presidency. He was aging when he first became President – and the job hastened the aging process. He was blind to the protests of the US Population – and crushed the students in their
    camps of protests at the slaughter in Gaza.

    Another fact – which might be included “in the near future ” is that the October 7th raid
    by Hamas occurred at a time when Biden was coming to the end of his term and weak and
    not likely to make any coherent response or be able to put appropriate pressure on Netanyahu
    by restricting Arms sales..

    The UK response was another factor – instead of putting the Humane point of view those
    (Mostly Tories) in charge either made weak protests or actually co-operated in the violence.
    I hate to say it but Margaret Thatcher forcibly made her opinion clear both when Israel invaded
    Lebanon in 1982 and when they bombed Tunisia in 1985. In the second case she actually got
    US President Reagan to change his opinion and in the first she put an embargo on Arms Sales to Israel.

    Whatever happens now is to the detriment of the Palestinian population for it is now far far
    worse for them than if Harris had won. Will she come out now in favour of a more
    compassionate policy on Gaza – its a bit late but someone nearer the centre of power
    in the US needs to do so.

  7. With 1 result still due it seems likely that Trump’s vote might be down from last time by 1m or less.
    And Harris’s vote is likely to be 11m down from Biden’s.
    So the cost of living and Palestine seems to have done for the Democrats.
    But the voters had a choice between the 2 main Pro Big Business & Warmonger parties, some choice.
    The Greens came third with over 600k but with billions spent by oligarchs on political campaign advertising there was for a far from level playing field.
    Some openly Socialist candidates got thousands of votes some by Write In on ballot papers.
    Should overturn the 2010 Supreme Court ruling which enabled oligarchs to pour billions to campaigning and have state funding for candidates so citizens are put first.
    USA needs like here & elsewhere a Left Wing Democratic Socialist Party & as soon as possible not in 4 years time.

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