Bombing kids in Lebanon is ok, apparently – but retaliation for bombing kids is ‘aggression’
Keir Starmer has been silent over the past couple of weeks about Israel’s terrorism and slaughter of civilians – including large numbers of women and children and at least one Iranian general – in its pursuit of Hezbollah figures in Lebanon. He took only minutes from the news breaking publicly to come out and condemn Iran’s retaliatory strike this evening, calling it ‘aggression’, ‘escalation’ and an ‘attempt to harm innocent Israelis’:
Israel’s booby-trapped pagers in September and its repeat bombing of multiple residential blocks last week are presumably not aggression or escalation, in Starmer’s diseased and occupied mind, not to mention its continuing genocide of Palestinians in Gaza.
The US has responded similarly, saying there will be ‘consequences’ for Iran’s supposedly unprovoked attack on Israel, while Israel’s unilateral attack on Lebanese civilians was ‘justified’.
Bombing kids and their families in Lebanon is fine, apparently, but retaliating for the bombing of kids is simply beyond the pale.
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We stand with israel
You might, keef. You don’t speak for everyone.
And israel’s right to defend itself
Sure – but that doesn’t involve the wanton MURDER of thousands of non-combatant men, women & children.
And you’re complicit in that.
There is no “right to self-defence” on foreign soil, Keef. Today’s missile strikes have been a long time coming and are Israel’s due harvest, reaped from so many bad seeds sown over the last 75 years. It won’t be the last, either.
IMMEDIATELY Biden was installed in office, i wrote on skwawkbox.org that after the first four years in our lifetimes without USA, UK (& EU)’s OVERT direct INVASIONS and consequent BLOODSHED, we must prepare for a return to back to back deaths and destruction.
That easily predictable and predicted commenced at once, with the ramping up of deaths in The Ukraine, then the return to open Ethnic Cleansing, and Genocide in Palestine by the OCCUPYING forces.
We now see Biden determined to see out his office with as much loss of lives of those who have done us no harm.
HARRIS will continue in that deadly vein.
RE: Sir Keith Starmer, i wrote on skwawkbox.org that our hope, confusing our aims with his, and ‘labelitis’ is BLINDING too nany of us to the OBVIOUS fact that the Kid Starver ‘is bad, Bad, BAD news’.
i did not even have in mind the egregious freebie gobbling, nor extreme venality we see recently exposed.
My warning was focused on what skwawkbox.org highlights in this post.
It remains PAINFUL to see the predictions come to pass in such a sharply vivid way.
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WHY has it taken so long for so many to realise the obvious, that the most ghastly individuals and creatures have been handed the party formed to do good for the many
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Precisely. Bombing civilians and slaughtering women and children is not only deemed acceptable and reasonable by The Official Narrative (TON) – and its guardians and cheerleaders – if it is being carried against Muslim and Christian Palestinians and other Arab peoples but is also deemed acceptable against Russian-speaking people and anti-Nazi’s in Eastern Ukraine (which occurred regularly between 2014-2024 despite the Minsk Agreements).
The hypocrisy and double standards is off the scale. Particularly when it comes to the principle of self-defence.
Either everyone has the right to self-defence and Right to Protect (R2P) or no one does. If Zionist Israel has the right to self-defence, so does Lebanon, Syria, the Palestinians, and Iran. Who also have the right to request assistance from neighbouring states under the UN R2P legal provisions.
Similarly, the Russian speakers and Russian Orthodox sections of Eastern Ukraine and Crimea have the same right of self-defence against the illegally imposed Western neo-Nazi proxy regime in Kiev as well as the right to call for assistance from neighbouring states under the UN R2P provisions.
Those who dismiss the reciprocal rights of others in this regard – whether it is apologists for Western Oligarch backed Israeli Zionists or Ukrainian neo-Nazi’s – are simply the worst kind of hypocrites who have nothing useful or valid to contribute to the situation.
They should crawl back under whatever rock they emerged from and STFU.,
The delusion of the US and UK government are staggering. The US with the help of the UK attacked Iraq after the attack on the twin towers in New York. Never mind Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with the attack and didn´t have WMD, it was used as an excuse to control Iraq´s oil.
Despite defeating Saddam Hussein the US and the UK haven´t managed to politically control Iraq. The same could be say about Afghanistan.
Somehow the political and military elite in the US and the UK believe that they can defeat Iran. It is simply crazy. The US hasn´t been able to defeat the Cuban revolution on its doorstep and is going to defeat Iran?
An attack on Iran by the US is going to provoke WW3 never mind who wins the conflict, on paper the US won in Iraq and Afghanistan, but, on the ground where it really matters the US lost.
In real terms Israel can forget about signing any more Abraham Agreements with Arab countries. What most likely will happen is that Egypt, Jordan and Morocco will tear them. Israel will become isolated once again from the Arab world and US and UK will pay a very heavy price.
Let´s us get ready for a living crisis worse that the one we are living through right now. The prices of electricity and gas will increase beyond anything we have experienced so far.
China will emerge as the world super power and US will be in the same position as the UK after being in the wining side on WW1 and WW2: the UK won both WW but at the price of losing its hegemony and transferring it to the US.
I am outlining the best possible scenario here. Should the US lost (very likely) the standards of living in the West will fall back to the standards of living over a Century ago. The welfare state will be truly over.
9/11 was deliberately allowed to happen.
Interception of aircraft that go off course is a routine event. And yet, there was no interception on this occasion.
Also, WTC 7 collapsed despite the fact that nothing hit it.
Without 9/11, the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq would not have been possible.
All bought and paid for
This is how the Palestinians are reporting Iran’s ‘revenge’ attack on Israel.
Crushing Response – Iran Strikes Dozens of Targets throughout Israel with Hundreds of Ballistic Missiles
The long-anticipated Iranian retaliation to the Israeli assassination of Palestinian leader Ismail Haniyeh and Lebanese leader Hassan Nasrallah was more decisive than expected.
Hundreds of Iranian missiles rained all over Israel on Tuesday, though reportedly aiming for military and strategic targets.
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/crushing-response-iran-strikes-dozens-of-targets-throughout-israel-with-hundreds-of-ballistic-missiles/
And STILL nothing about the execrable drip you’ve seen fit to lumber this country with; the milksop who puts on an air of surreptitious ambiguity about the UKs future role, should israel continue to attempt to drag this country into the regional conflagration it’s so desperate to instigate.
That’s despite a newly-created foetus being able to successfully predict just exactly what the shallow, zionist-without-qualification bore’s next move will be in that nigh-on inevitability.
Posting the view of the people you have indirectly subjugated, tortured and murdered, does not in any way, shape, nor form, absolve you of your complicity.
You banged the drum for keef. He bangs the drum for israeli-inflicted genocide, the freezing of UK
pensioners and the deprivation of UK children.
And not only have YOU enabled the whole fucking shebang, you criticised those who saw it coming from miles off.
You can both fucking well burn. .
Far be it for me to turn into a Father 0’qwerty Toffee, but doesn’t (even) an occasional good post from SteveH invite forgiveness from us for his fundamentally evil habit of promoting the Starmer-antichrist in our holy, socialist community of scientific socialists?
Of course SteveH’s repentance might be as false and insincere as the Starmer’s words themselves, but our faith in the transcendent truth of democratic socialism imposes great challenges and responsibilities on us, does it not?
Blessed be the words of Peace and Justice. Amen. (I’ve got me coat already….)
No, I’m very much afraid it does not, padre.
This is the beaut who excuses child deprivation,, made excuse after excuse for nonces, and (be it indirectly) has enabled the same genocide he hasn’t even got the stones to condemn outright for fear of exposing his warped conscience to the stark reality of his own hypocrisy.
And imposed more austerity on us from a safe distance.
He made his choice, having been made fully aware of the consequences and was wholly dismissive of them.
God might forgive him. I definitely won’t.
From the point of view of consistency, qwertboi, Toffee has a valid point.
As pointed out above,…….
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/10/01/starmer-weeks-of-silence-over-israels-lebanon-terrorism-minutes-to-condemn-irans-retaliation/#comment-259433
….Billy-boy is being extremely selective in regard to the principles involved. Choosing to apply them in one case and deny them in another.
That makes him a hypocrite who has nothing worthwhile to contribute. A worm-tongue who makes Uriah Heep look like a paragon of virtue by comparison.
If we didn’t have Steve H we would end up eating each other, that’s the Left for you
The Right thrive because they don’t believe in Black or White, just green , they would sell their granny and her flat for buttons then spend the proceeds on ?
*Newly-created embryo (not ‘foetus’)
Off topic:
This is the kind of idiotic, amateur-hour economics that many of us said would happen with Reeves. From Richard J Murphy:
As the Guardian noted yesterday evening:
Ministers are being asked to draw up billions of pounds in cuts to infrastructure projects over the next 18 months despite Rachel Reeves pledging to invest more to grow the economy, the Guardian has learned.
Members of the cabinet have been asked to model cuts to their investment plans of up to 10% of their annual capital spending as part of this month’s spending review, government sources said.
They added:
The demands would mean big projects such as hospital improvements, road building and defence projects being slowed down or stopped altogether as the government looks for ways to repair what they say is a £22bn black holein the public finances.
The kindest possible interpretation of this is that it is economic madness. Not only is the country more than capable of delivering the things that will be cut – meaning that there must be a reduced economic activity as a result of them not being done because the private sector is not going to pick up and use the skills of those people who would have been engaged on them – but the goal of growth that Rachel Reeves has set for itself requires that they be done. And in a great many cases, so does need.
So why is Reeves doing this? I can only offer an updated version of a quote from John Maynard Keynes:
Practical people who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.
Reeves is exactly that. She very obviously believes in the defunct economics of neoliberalism. And we are all going to suffer for it.
https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2024/10/02/reeves-the-slave-of-defunct-economists/
Cheers PW.
I’ll bet a whole pound that defence doesn’t get cut. (Defence LOL…)
Pity we cannot slash the salary they get to minimum wage or state pension level plus the very generous expenses they can claim.
It’s almost as if British Governments support illegal invasions and violent repression in Israel’s quest for Lebensraum. Israel has not defined its international borders, nor signed the nuclear, biological and chemical weapons conventions – a true rogue state.
So far each and every mp had the perverse desire to have a war under his/her belt to prove what? Mainly that they are totally unsuitable for the job they held/in starver’s case hold. Because no war ends wars, but that is what they tell people…..
No all MPs Sabine, Jeremy Corbyn has very clearly called Israel’s intervention in Lebanon for what it is: the invasion of Lebanon.
First of all Starmer lied when he said innocent Israeli civilians were attacked, this was contradicted by Israeli military spokesperson Hagari who agreed with Jake Sullivan that no civilians were killed or injured.
Furthermore under the UN charter Iran has the right of self defence as when its Embassy was attacked in Syria and its military leaders were attacked in Lebanon, these attacks were initiated by Israel in order to provoke the Iranians into a wider war and to drag the US into attacking Iran. As well as complying with the UN charter Iran had a right to attack Israel under what is called the doctrine of belligerent reprisal.
A belligerent reprisal consists of an action that would otherwise be unlawful but that in exceptional cases is considered lawful under international law when used as an enforcement measure in reaction to unlawful acts of an adversary.
Purpose of reprisals. Reprisals may only be taken in reaction to a prior serious violation of international humanitarian law, and only for the purpose of inducing the adversary to comply with the law.
(ii) Measure of last resort. Reprisals may only be carried out as a measure of last resort, when no other lawful measures are available to induce the adversary to respect the law.
(iii) Proportionality. Reprisal action must be proportionate to the violation it aims to stop.
(iv) Decision at the highest level of government. The decision to resort to reprisals must be taken at the highest level of government.
(v) Termination. Reprisal action must cease as soon as the adversary complies with the law.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v1_rul_rule145
“(v) Termination. Reprisal action must cease as soon as the adversary complies with the law.”
Given the record of the Zionist Israeli State of not complying with International law makes this so open-ended in the present context as to force the conclusion that this condition will only ever occur under one specific set of circumstances.
i.e That the belligerent party subject to the moral, legal, and legitimate reprisal action in this case ceases to exist in its present form.
Alistair Crooke here…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Vrf5c-umY&ab_channel=CounterCurrents
…..provides the details as to why this is so.
Rumour control says Netanyahu was on the blower to Keef when the hits began. Seems he dropped the phone and legged it to the shelter mid conversation.
Footage of him speaking later shows him looking shaky, which is most unlike his usual appearances.
What should happen now is behind the scenes Israel will be admitting that they were defenceless against these attacks and only America can save them by going to war with Iran and the axis of resistance which includes Russia
This is it now, the Yanks will tell Israel that’s not going to happen, Israel will then go back to what they are good at, Genocide and Terrorism
Doug I agree with you Israel will carry on with the Genocide of Palestinians as for Terrorism no so sure. If the US makes it clear to Israel that they aren’t willing to attack Iran. Israel would need to be very careful no to murder anyone on Iranian soil and to stop attacking Iranian’s interests and high ranking Iranian officials in the Middle East.
Yesterday’s attack by Iran should have made crystal clear to Israel that should Israel continue attacking Iranian interest in the region the next target from Iran’s missiles would be the infrastructure of Israel.
Iran is a huge country territory wise is about a third of the European continent, while Israel without counting the depopulated Negev desert is tiny.