University president continues capitulation to Israeli pressure
Columbia University in New York will not divest its investments in Israeli firms and firms that supply weaponry to Israel, according to the university’s president Minouche Shafik, despite demands from thousands of its students who are protesting in solidarity with the Palestinian people and against Israel’s genocide. Shafik, echoing the narrative of Israel lobbyists, has even claimed that the protests have made the university unsafe for Jewish students, even though Jewish students and faculty members are playing a leading role in the protests, as if the feelings of some students, who don’t like to be confronted with the reality that a country they support is engaged in genocide, are more important than stopping mass murder of women and children.
The announcement continues Shafik’s shame after she failed to challenge a narrative spouted by pro-Israel lawmakers during her questioning by politicians – and claimed a pro-Palestine professor at the university had been sacked and would never teach at Columbia again, a claim denied by Professor Mohamed Abdou.
Columbia is one of a string of universities across the US that have shamed themselves by calling in armed police to arrest and disperse protests against the genocide in Gaza. Some, parroting the pro-Israel lobby, have even accused the students of ‘siding with terrorists’.
Meanwhile, Israel continues to slaughter hundreds of Palestinians daily, mostly women and children – and the US is trying to block a planned warrant by the International Criminal Court for the arrest of Israel’s war criminal prime minister and other ministers for Israel’s war crimes.
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https://sputnikglobe.com/20240429/critical-fallout-after-violent-arrests-of-emory-university-protestors–1118166668.html
“”To sustain this level of blind support for Israel, the U.S. must erode its own democracy. And that is what we see happening on U.S. campuses now,” said Trita Parsi, executive vice president of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.”
It cannot be too long before the political and media class across the Collective West follow Trudeau’s precedent from two years ago by effectively outlawing anyone who goes against The Official Narrative on any point.
This gives an insight into the UK’s relationship with the Israeli state that the UK’s press haven’t told you about.
In aiding Israel’s mass attacks on Palestinians in Gaza, Britain is implementing an agreement openly signed with Netanyahu’s far-right coalition – which has been almost entirely ignored in the UK national media.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/2030-roadmap-for-uk-israel-bilateral-relations/2030-roadmap-for-uk-israel-bilateral-relations
“UK’s press haven’t told you about.”
Gosh! The UK media class, along with the political class are lying by omission?
Say it ain’t so!
I wonder what else they have been lying about?
It makes you wonder how it is possible that there really are people around who are gullible enough to believe a single thing these people say on anything at all.
Never mind those who enthusiastically parrot these lies at every opportunity.
Looks like the Gell-Mann effect is operating at full throttle here.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-gell-mann-amnesia-effect-is-as-follows-you
Dave – “It makes you wonder how it is possible that there really are people around who are gullible enough to believe a single thing these people say on anything at all.”
….and yet you’re gullible enough to support the corrupt fascist Putin who has an outstanding arrest warrant for abducting and trafficking children.😏
In what way is supporting the rights of people to defend themselves from predatory neo nazis supporting fascism Billy?
Particularly when there are so many among the Western oligarch’s and their useless idiots – from Merkal to Hollande; Stolenburg to the Rand report; Biden to Nuland; Von der Crazy to ‘Jungle’ Joe – (for whom you shill) have openly admitted their criminal intentions and actions.
Are you really going to go on public record as arguing that the Russian speaking people in the Donbass and Crimea, not to mention the Russian people as a whole would roll over and take it up the arse if it were not for a single individual?
No wonder the Collective West is doing so badly when this fantasy level of analysis is the best they, and you, have to offer.
Dave – It’s not my problem that you are a gullible f’wit.
PS, you are confused on the trumped up charges of child abduction and traffiking from those even you admit have regularly lied to us.
Depicting the provision of a safe haven for people – including children – from the murderous shelling by the neo-nazis in Ukraine which you publicly, and foolishly, deny against all available documented evidence exist and which has already caused the deaths of many children demonstrates a level of gullibility which is off the scale.
Meanwhile:
https://fondfbr.ru/en/articles/zelensky-human-trafficking-en/
“After Volodymyr Zelensky was elected President of Ukraine, the structure of the slave trade in Ukraine rapidly started to change. Ukrainian labor slavery is already approaching sexual slavery in its scale. More and more Ukrainians and foreigners who have voluntarily or involuntarily found themselves in Ukraine and fallen into the networks of human traffickers are forced to work against their will They are being subjected to physical and psychological violence, deprived of documents and any means of communication. Any victim’s attempts to contact the outside world are suppressed and punished. Since 2019, full-fledged slave plantations and slave labor markets have emerged in Ukraine, where deals are made under the cover of the Ukrainian government to buy and sell people, including men, women and children. These people are used as cheap labor in various sectors of the economy, enslaved into sex slavery and sold abroad…..
……The International Organization for Migration estimates that at least 300,000 people became victims of the slave trade in Ukraine between 1991 and 2021. According to information obtained by the Foundation to Battle Injustice from three independent sources, the scale of the slave trade in Ukraine after Volodymyr Zelensky came to power is already comparable in terms of indicators to the entire 30-year period of independence, and at least 550,000 people became victims of the slave trade. Human rights activists of the Foundation to Battle Injustice have uncovered facts confirming the trafficking of Ukrainian children. There are serious concerns that children may be used for organ removal on the Western black market of transplantology and child sex slavery. The Foundation to Battle Injustice managed to find out under what pretext Ukrainian men, women, children and foreign nationals get into the slave trade networks, where the auction houses for human beings trafficking are located in the areas of Western and Central Ukraine and how they are connected to Zelensky and his entourage.”
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A problem which is only going to be exacerbated – with the connivance of European Governments – by the existing withdrawal of Consular and banking services by the Ukraine Junta for the over one million military eligible Ukrainians who have tried to escape to the West from the enforced conscription which is sending untrained and unequipped civilians up to the age of sixty – and which also includes pregnant women – to the front line to be slaughtered whilst the neo-nazi units of the Right Sector, Azov and others cower at the back and refuse to fight.
You really need to address this problem you have with actual documented evidence which contradicts your prejudices obtained by preferring to listen to those you concede are serial liars Billy. It is clouding your judgement and making you sound like Lord Haw Haw.
And yet you can offer no evidence to refute the evidenced based arguments put to you.
All you’ve got is ad hominem.
Everyone here on this forum has your measure. They know who the “gullible fuckwit” is.
Dave – Why would I want to waste my time arguing with an idiotic numpty who is desperately looking for a platform to tell us how wonderful Russia, China and Iran are. I’ve got better things to do with my time than facilitate your naive nonsense.
Misrepresenting all evidenced based points by redefining them to suit your childish narrative certainly does not meet the accepted definition of argument. No one except yourself has used terms such as “wonderful” or “The Putin” – which are pathetic attempts to deny all objective based evidence by making up what no one has actually said.
And yet here you still are Billy, ranting into the ether. Insisting that everyone else supply detailed answers to your every whim whilst claiming exclusive rights to ignore any thing which does not suit your subjective prejudices and misrepresent evidence presented to avoid having to deal with it.
Corkscrews are, by comparison, as straight as a die. Everyone here sees you for what you are. A liar, a fraud, and a coward that would run away from its own shadow.
Dave – You’re the one who is naive enough to support the Russian, Chinese and Iranian regimes. Quite how you have managed to reconcile this with your self-proclaimed socialist ideals is anybodies guess. 😕
Dave – ps You’re the only one who has referred to “The Putin”. (I generally refer to him as the corrupt fascist Putin)
What was it that you were saying about misrepresentation, do you have any more examples? 😏
Once again Billy you are deliberately lying and misrepresenting other people to suit your narrow prejudiced narrative.
This is the reason why no one here takes anything you say seriously because it is not possible to have a grown up discussion based on objective evidence with someone who reduces everything to simplistic emotional responses and who flounces off whenever they cannot get their own way.
No one here has any obligation to validate your fantasies or your dis-ingenuousness.
Dave – “Once again Billy you are deliberately lying and misrepresenting other people to suit your narrow prejudiced narrative.”
So you keep saying, I’ve asked you before to PROVE IT but to date all you’ve ever done is either treat us to yet another of your sad attempts to be a condescending tw*t or make some silly wannabe bullyboy threats in what I can only presume to be yet another pathetic attempt to pump up your own flagging ego.
What is it that you found so objectionable about the link to the policy paper that I posted above in my first comment or are your rants on this page just part of the silly childish vendetta that you declared in your very own sweet way
“No hiding place now. You either answer the question or fuck off from this site.
And I will hound you every day, across every thread with a comment section for a grown up response till you either back up your bullshit or bugger off.”
As I’ve said to you many times before, you really do need to get over yourself.
Billy, you are the one who needs to prove your case in regards to your disingenuous statements which misrepresent what others say.
No where have the statements been made that any Country is “wonderful”; nor has any statement been made or evidence been presented which is based on anything that Putin or Russia has stated.
All the evidence provided to you – which you consistently deny is the case without any evidence to support your warped misrepresentation – has been sourced from either the West or the Ukraine itself.
Yet you insist on the exclusive right to publish the lie that the evidence presented to you that, for example…..
– The Western based and controlled OSCE data on the shelling of Russian speaking Ukrainians in the Donbass;
– The publicly available admission by former Western leaders such as Hollande and Merkal that the Minsk agreements were deliberately undermined by the West to prepare for a Ukrainian invasion of the Donbass and Crimea;
– The publicly available admission by the head of NATO that the current conflict began not in 2022 but in 2014;
….’Putin propaganda” on my or any one else’s part.
Moreover, the basic general principle of the right to self defence is misrepresented as “supporting Putin”, when it has been applied to Russian speaking people in the Donbass, Crimea and Russia itself by anyone attempting to make that point. Including myself.
Tell us Billy Liar, just what is it that enables you to accept the rights of Palestinians to self-defence but not Russian speaking people?
Why the picking and choosing, through blatant misrepresentation to the point of publicly lying through your teeth, of when and where a basic general principle should and should not apply?
Why does this basic principle not apply to Russian speaking people?
Why is it deliberately and maliciously misrepresented by you?
Could it be that you a racist?
Racism on your part would certainly explain your consistent and desperate attempts to whitewash and deny the Western sourced evidence of massive levels of influence on the part of neo-nazis in the Ukraine Regime – along with the historical evidence of the Western elites active nurturing and support of those fascist forces in order to achieve the objectives of the, again Western based, Rand report of breaking up the Russian Federation.
A liar. A fraud. A racist. A fantasist who cannot deal with evidence that contradicts the warped and narrow self-defined subjectiveness of his own infant level ego. Who runs away publicly when offered evidence he does not like by misrepresenting it through slandering others.
You cannot even substantiate your lies Billy. All you’ve got is projection of your own pathetic behavior onto others and ad hom. slanders.
No wonder you have less than zero influence on this site.
Dave – What is it that you found so objectionable about the link to the policy paper that I posted above in my first comment?
“No wonder you have less than zero influence on this site.”
You really do need to make your mind up, am I so dangerous that you need to dedicate yourself to carrying out a vendetta to vanquish me or someone who has zero influence. It is however very gratifying to see how much I have so obviously rattled your cage over the last few days. 😘😉
Show me any statement I have made objecting to the policy paper of your first post Billy.
I made an observation [08:34pm, 29/04/24] relating to the fact that in that post you conceded that Western government’s lie to us by both omission and commission and drew attention to the inconsistencies (via reference to the Gell-Mann Effect) in accepting that reality over one issue whilst at the same time falling hook, line, sinker and copy of Angling Times for The Official Narrative on other issues.
And you simply went off on one [08:52pm, 29/4/24] with an unsubstantiated and un-evidenced accusatory reference to The Putin (a term, which like Country 404, everyone capable of keeping up recognises).
When presented with the principle of everyone having the right to defend themselves [09:16pm, 29/04/24] – with reference to Western sourced evidence previously supplied to you – the response was “fuckwit.”[09:31pm, 29/4/24]
When a reasonable request was made to substantiate with evidence your refusal to recognise this most basic principle and the implied argument against the Western sourced evidence which has been copiously supplied to you [09:46pm,29/4/24] the response was you can’t be bothered. [10:12pm, 29/4/24]
This on the grounds that any argument on that general basic principle of the right of Russian speaking people to defend themselves (yesterday, May 2nd was the 10th anniversary of the fascist murder of over 40 Ukrainians in the Trade Union building in Odessa by neo-nazi’s who are currently an integral part of the Ukrainian Regime) is tantamount to saying that Russia – and for some unknown reason China and Iran (which were never mentioned in any of the points made to you) – are “wonderful” .[10:12pm, 29/4/24]
Words I never used.
Thus misrepresenting what was said in order to avoid the substantive issue. A blatant lie in anyone’s book.
And like the incompetent and exceptionalist hypocrites whose Narrative you are pushing you proceeded to double down on your misrepresentation narrative by repeating the blatant lie to once again [05:01pm, 30/4/24].
So I’ll ask again Billy. Show me anywhere where I have said that Russia, China, Iran or anywhere else for that matter are “wonderful” (you words, not mine). Or that I’ve argued that the issue is about The Putin – whom you seem to be fixated upon – rather than the general basic principle of the right to self defence based on evidence of the need to do that which is all sourced from the West.
Evidence of which, because you cannot refute, you misrepresent by lying through your teeth in putting words into other peoples mouth which they have never said whilst at the same time both ignoring the evidence supplied because it is convenient and misframing the issue by misrepresenting the position put to you.
You have now reached the desperate position of once again having to make something up – that I have somehow objected to the paper in your post 08:08pm, 29/4/24 when I have made no such objection.
Once again lying through your teeth by misrepresenting others because you have not got a leg to stand on.
Moreover, show me where I have stated you are dangerous? Another red-herring designed to cloud the issue.
As for your whining regarding some kind of ‘vendetta” the common ‘etiquette’ understood by everyone is that if you cannot take it, don’t dish it out. I’m merely going to carry on attempting to obtain the kind of straight answers from you which you constantly demand of others but wont deem to reciprocate.
Choosing instead, like all wannabe bad faith actor trolls, to misrepresent, misframe, project, insult, and avoid the substantive issues and then whining like a mardy five year old when you get called out for it.
So yes, Billy, I’m going to be here until one of us croak’s presenting the evidence, and asking the questions until you man up and engage properly of fuck off with your nonsense.
Your choice kid.
I’ve got better things to do with my time than facilitate your naive nonsense.
Well if that’s the case (and we know it just isn’t) then WHY are you still posting?
I can think of plenty of things I’d rather be doing (to allegedly spend my retirement in some Caribbean idyll) than continually posting wilfully misleading and disingenuous bollocks on a UK socialist political forum.
Especially if I wasn’t – and never had been – socialist.
Toffee – If that is the case then why don’t you just ignore my comments?
The choice is yours
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Was your last line intended to be some sort of insult?
That was Toffee’s point to you Billy.
Te fact that you have so little to offer that you are reduced to adding the stealing of other peoples points to your congenital dis-ingenuousness, consistent fraud, and abject cowardice speaks volumes about your ‘character’.
The pair of you deserve each other. 🥱
That response does not address the point being made Billy.
Do try and concentrate at the back there and at the very least reciprocate what you constantly demand of others.
Dave – You appear to be under the misapprehension that I care
If you did not care Billy you would not continue lingering around like a bad smell to have your arse handed to you on a daily basis..
Dave – Aww diddums, are you getting worried that you have been ignored?😔
That was lame even by your low standards Billy.
Have you nothing better to offer by which to avoid the issue?
Is that really all you’ve got?
Our cat could come up with a better retort than that.
Dave – “Our cat could come up with a better retort than that.”
Have you considered putting your cat on TicToc?
I’m having to skip great lumps of writing,often good stuff to try and avoid the kidstarver ambulance repetitions. Ti’s a pity but I’m toothless and wizened and tired.
I liked Naomi Klein’s response to the intransigence of the US Establishment.
“We need an exodus from Zionism”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/24/zionism-seder-protest-new-york-gaza-israel