Speaker’s office’s excuse drips condescension and white privilege and ignores that HE’s the one who decides how long a debate or PMQs session lasts
White Commons speaker Lindsay Hoyle opted today to ignore Diane Abbott as she constantly rose to try to speak during a discussion among MPs about the appalling racism shown toward… Diane Abbott by the Tories’ biggest donor.
Hoyle refused to call Ms Abbott, Britain’s first Black woman MP, while a succession of white MPs droned on – and about any old nonsense, not even just about racism, through the whole PMQs (Prime Minister’s Questions) session – and the whole sorry spectacle was caught on video.
Hoyle – already a subject of disgust and derision for colluding with Starmer to allow Labour to hijack a vote on an SNP motion for a ceasefire in Gaza and to replace it with an Israel-friendly version – has rightly been the subject of an avalanche of criticism for the condescension of allowing white MPs to talk about racism to a Black woman MP while preventing her from speaking for herself.
And his excuse, which he presumably thought would make things better, instead makes them even worse – dripping with condescension and white privilege:
‘There was not enough time to call all members’ ignores a) that this wasn’t about ‘all members’ but the one member who was being talked about and who has suffered disgusting racism, while white MPs were given free rein; and b) that the person in the Commons chamber who decides how long PMQs lasts is… Speaker Lindsay Hoyle.
Basically, Hoyle is admitting that he decided there wasn’t enough time for the Black woman to speak once the white folks had had their say.
Pathetic and appalling.
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Hoyle is a husk of a man. He displayed is hollowness for all to see when denying the SNP their Opposition Day Motion re the slaughter of the Palestinians, because Starmer “URGED” him so to do.
We need not damn him. SIR hoyle damns himself.
Speaker’s office’s excuse drips condescension and white privilege and ignores that HE’s the one who decides how long a debate or PMQs session lasts
Is he?
Is he really? His position might be granted those powers, but keef’s already demonstrated just who says/does what.
And this is another example. Hoil thought
keef had handed over the negatives last time; looks suspiciously like keef had copies – and probably still does.
Just thought I’d leave this here:
https://skwawkbox.org/2021/11/11/labour-right-targeting-women-of-colour-for-deselection-even-when-not-on-left/
SteveH11/11/2021 AT 7:44 PM
Diane ix 68yrs old, maybe she’ll just choose to retire
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The Toffee (597)11/11/2021 AT 7:54 PM
Got your pinkies crossed, and included it in your letter to santa, have you, wee fella?
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SteveH11/11/2021 AT 8:23 PM
Toffee – I don’t really care much either way
………and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That’s an excellent demonstration of the kind of exceptionalist privilege and Praetorian disdain which is the topic of this thread you’ve just elicited from Britain’s answer to the birth pill Toffee.
Well played.
Dave – What has whether Diane chooses to retire or not got to do with gas lighting nonsense about “exceptionalist privilege” and “Praetorian disdain”? 🙄
Hoyle’s always bleating on about acting in the interests of MPs’ safety, but he’s doing more to fire up public anger and disillusionment with the whole rotten shower than just about anyone else. He, Starmer, Sunak and Woodcock will be at the top of their shitlist.
Stammer used Dianne to scote cheap points over the toerags, nothing else.
Doug – Who was leading the Labour Party when all this was going on, who was it that left McNicol in office and who was it that put McNicol in the House of Lords where he has a platform for life?
Chris – …and many on these pages are using Diane to score cheap points against Keir Starmer. 🤔
Just another one of a litany of thoroughly justifiable complaints about smarmer – and his cabal.
Or do you intend to absolve him of this, one as well?
I expect you’ll attempt it. So, off you go…
It’s high time for Hoyle to go. Without doubt, the worst Speaker in living memory.
Indeed it is, Joe.
In fact, he should never have been elected speaker on my opinion.
He’s surpassed Gorbals Mick in the Westminster club stakes with his complete and arrogant disregard for propriety and transparency.
But just like Gorbals Mick, he’ll no doubt be given the ermine robes. Nothing ever changes with that lot.
No matter who you vote for the same people get in, this can only when every aspect of what passes for Democracy is well snd truly stitched up
My objection is not that they have been bought and paid for, but how cheap they are
One of us needs to win the Euromillions to buy our Democracy and party back from the f7ckers
Red Tories making hay over Frank Hester’s attack on Dianne Abbot
Someone needs to remind them of the filth and bile reported in the internal communications of the Labour party
Doug – I agree that the behaviour of some at Labour HQ was reprehensible but you appear to have conveniently forgotten who was leading the Labour Party when all this was going on, who was it that left McNicol in office and who was it that put McNicol in the House of Lords where he has a platform for life?
Doug – I agree that the behaviour of some at Labour HQ was reprehensible
Names.
Toffee – If you want to publish your list of names then do it, surely you don’t need me to hold your hand for you.
I asked you to provide names.
You’re also making the accusations but seem reticent to direct them at anyone in particular.
So surprise us. Name everyone you accuse of acting reprehensibly or remain a coward.
Toffee – What comes next, are you going to stamp your feet and have a tantrum. 🥱
Assisted Dying is essential in any civilised society
I don’t know why it changed from years ago when me mam had a very peaceful and painless death, when the staff in the hospital effectively helped her on her way
Then there was me auld man who was kept alive against his will for over two years, it was beyond cruel and inhumane, it was sick, you wouldn’t treat a dog that badly
There is no excuse, its been successfully managed for years in numerous other countries
Problem is, its the Fuhrer making it a pledge for dear old Esther Rantzen that he will support a free vote in the next Parliament !
Doug – Given that in all likelihood Keir Starmer will be PM later this year I’m surprised that you aren’t welcoming his commitment to allow a vote on this important matter.
Herr Flick
You trust the Fuhrer not to shit in Esther Rantzens custard
Then I have a bridge in Old London Town I would like to sell you
Doug – Well given that he has committed to allowing the passage of a bill during his first term you won’t have to wait too long to see how wrong you are proven to be.
Doug – Unfortunately because the left has yet again failed to get their act together the sad reality is that they still don’t have anything tangible to offer the electorate. The last time the left fielded a substantial number of parliamentary candidates (126) every last one of them lost their deposits (attracting an average vote of only 384 per candidate) and their 650 prospective councillors didn’t do any better.
You can’t expect people to vote for you when you don’t have anything credible to offer them.
Doug – see below @ 1:50am
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/03/13/hoyles-excuse-for-ignoring-abbott-amounts-to-no-time-after-the-white-folks-had-their-say/#comment-253389
the left this…the left that…
Thought smarmerist labour were supposed to be on the left?
…So that must be an admission that they’re not.
Which begs the question: If smarmerism isn’t on the left, then what alternative does it offer; given the centre ground is already taken by the libtards, and the right by the rags?
C’mon, genius… enlighten us great unwashed with your unmatched perspicacity.
Oh, ok then. You’re not gonna give any (straight) answer, so will you give any (straight) answer to this? (No)
How did the left get on in Rochdale last week, hmm?
What was the credible alternative smarmerist labour offered, and why was it flatly rejected?
Haven’t got all day…😙🎶
Toffee – “How did the left get on in Rochdale last week, hmm? “
Not very well, the seat was won by the right-wing populist George Galloway
The right wing populist George Galloway??
Fuck me, you really are on a different planet.
What next? Keef’s a commie?
Toffee – How else would you describe someone like George Galloway who supports corrupt fascists like Putin and Assad and only 2 weeks after being elected as the MP for Rochdale is already looking for pastures new. Trumpian perhaps?
Doug and Toffee – What’s with this perturbing interest that the pair of you have with goats.
Somebody must have upset the paedo protecting Caribbean goat fondler, because it’s working overtime today trying to polish the Starmer turd.
Makes you wonder** duznit, baz? For someone who’s supposedly not arsed, the noncecase sure has had plenty to say.
**Wholeheartedly rhetorical.
baz2001
Methinks
Toffee would be proud of ‘Caribbean Goat Fondler’
Class
Not bad, not bad….
I’m a bit more alliterative so I like The Caribbean Caprine Corrupter
Herr Flick
Forms a friendship group ‘Pratts of the Caribbean’
Haha! Very good 😀
But it can’t be a friendship group with a solitary member, Dougal.
Toffee & Doug – What’s with this obsession that the pair of you have with goats? What was it that sparked your rather perverse interest in them
Doug – I agree that the behaviour of some at Labour HQ was reprehensible
I’ll ask you again to name them.
Every single one of them that has – according to you – acted reprehensibly.
I have a list here of those you refuse to mention.
And I say refuse before you use the excuse that you hadn’t thought of them, because as we all know, to you, some are beyond all reproach.
So….Names??
Toffee – https://skwawkbox.org/2024/03/13/hoyles-excuse-for-ignoring-abbott-amounts-to-no-time-after-the-white-folks-had-their-say/#comment-253408
Wee noncecase gobshite –
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/03/13/hoyles-excuse-for-ignoring-abbott-amounts-to-no-time-after-the-white-folks-had-their-say/#comment-253410
Toffee – https://skwawkbox.org/2024/03/13/hoyles-excuse-for-ignoring-abbott-amounts-to-no-time-after-the-white-folks-had-their-say/#comment-253412 🥱
I have a list here of those you’ll refuse to mention
*Fixed.
Toffee – Really? I don’t believe you.
Toffee – What comes next, are you going to stamp your feet and have a tantrum. 🥱
No. Not quite. However, I’ve taken the liberty of repeating your post to reinforce and re-establish the latest demonstration of your unbridled yellow-bellied cowardice.
You freely confess that “labour members acted reprehensibly”**.
But you won’t name anyone. (Is that under threat of docked pay? Nah, can’t be, even they’re not fucking desperate or idiotic enough to actually hand over moolah for the complete horseshit you spew. It’s embarrassing enough for the rest of us to read, so I can only imagine what inhuman shape any party apparatchik unfortunate or masochistic enough to read your drivel has contorted themselves into)
…And yet you still expect us to vote for them.
What a complete bellend.
**And they still do, and in no way restricted to their shithousery and hypocrisy regarding Abbott.
And as long as there are smarmerites, they always will.
Toffee – Or maybe I just can’t be arsed to play your silly childish games.
What’s certain is that you haven’t even got the courage of your own convictions.
Too scared to name those you accuse of “acting reprehensibly” but consistently demanding the rest of us vote for them, and always putting up a case for these very same people when the rest of us are trying to hold them to account.
You’re nowt but an infantile hypocritical gobshite; one who perpetually makes excuses for nonce-enablers/protectors.
Toffee – ❗PROVE IT❗
Toffee – Oh dear, are you feeling lonely and bored again?
I’m not the pathetic wannabe bully who is running around making accusations that we both know that you can’t substantiate.
It is interesting that – ghastly though this attack was – it has served
to bring to the notice of the public a part of the disgraceful behaviour of those
currently at the top of the Labour Party.
So we have had Forde (for example) speaking on several politics
programs about his concern (eg) at the way black party members are treated.
The disgusting remarks about Diane by Party Staffers was also recalled in
the resulting discussion by those sympathetic to her.
Obviously this was not pursued by the Labour Apparatchiks who were
on the program and we got the same old rubbish about
“we have completed the ‘Actions’ listed in the report”.
Really?
Of course I may have missed the abject apology due to Diane ..
HFM – Below is an extract from Ann Black’s NEC report. Surely if this was untrue then someone on the NEC would have spoken out. Do you actually have any evidence to support what you’ve claimed above or are your assertions just speculations on your part.
NEC meeting, January 23th 2024
The meeting opened with warm tributes to Tony Lloyd, Glenys Kinnock, Derek Draper and Allan Rogers.
We then had a final update rom the Forde report working group. Of Forde’s 165 recommendations, 154 are considered complete, and 11 are not being progressed.
The enhanced member’s pledge and a code of conduct for those in leadership positions have been circulated, and training on Afrophobia and anti-Black racism will be rolled out soon. The staff wellbeing policy has been reviewed and all staff attend training in dignity, respect and valuing others. The webpage will be updated with a positive narrative explaining all the excellent work that has been done.
Determined efforts were being made to reconstitute BAME Labour, providing a forum for BAME members to meet and organise.
I again raised issues around party culture, where replacing one faction by another does not necessarily create a more welcoming atmosphere. There was an interesting discussion on whether factionalism is bad or inherent in belonging to a political party.
However, it is unhelpful if members learn more about how to complain than how to behave. All of us are responsible for how we act ourselves and for calling out unacceptable behaviour by others.
Earlier in January, local role-holders were asked about their party culture and what would improve it, and I look forward to the results.
Forde’s proposals for time limits within disciplinary processes, as in workplace procedures, were not accepted by the NEC, but some cases are still taking far too long, and behind every one is an individual in distress.
https://labourlist.org/2024/02/labour-nec-meeting-report-selections-general-election-ann-black/
PS Of course the discussions (as exampled in my previous post) have
only covered a very small part of what is going on ..
Am however hoping that this gives other victims of current Labour disciplinary
policy a voice on the MSM but I wont hold my breath ..
At time of writing there have been 50 comments published (51 with this)
For someone who’s supposedly not arsed about Diane Abbott, 20 (or 40%) of the comments have been made by the very same gobshite.
And no – it’s not me. 😏
It’s the gobshite who tells us he believes that party members acted reprehensibly but refuses to name a single one.
This same blert criticises and scorns those who will refuse to vote for these racist, careerist and elitist scumbags.
…And, to cap it all, he doesn’t even reside here in the UK (so he says).
What a gobshite.
Toffee – Really, can you name the politicians who were exposed in the ‘leaked dossier’ that I have encouraged anyone to vote for❓🤔
https://skwawkbox.org/2024/03/13/hoyles-excuse-for-ignoring-abbott-amounts-to-no-time-after-the-white-folks-had-their-say/#comment-253435
Toffee – ❗PROVE IT❗
Don’t need to. You’ve already done that for me, ta.
Oh, and nor do I need mention anyone on the mental list I made
Why?
Because by your refusal to name anyone you implicate everyone.
How dya like them apples, ya great big non-dom noncecase?
😏
Toffee – Oh dear, if only we were all as clever as you have made clear that you think you are.
ffs get a grip of yourself.
I’m not the pathetic wannabe bully who is running around making accusations that we both know that you can’t substantiate.
Oh really? Your earlier post suggests an entirely contradictory statement, as illustrated
SteveH14/03/2024 AT 11:47 PM
Doug – I agree that the behaviour of some at Labour HQ was reprehensible
So WTF’s ^^^that^^^ if it’s NOT an accusation?
And that’s before you get started on b>substantiation, you cretin.
You really are quite the epitome of fuckwittery. Be gone with you, imbecile.
Toffee – The difference is that I can substantiate and evidence what I’ve said and unless you are claiming that the accusation I made that some of the Labour Party’s HQ staff behaved reprehensibly whilst Jeremy was in office is not substantiated by the evidence within the leaked dossier it is difficult to see wtf your point is. Do you have one?
Why are so many privileged bourgeois ‘lefties’ always so keen to shine their PC badges by identifying white privilege, whether real or imaginary, @ every opportunity. The primary cause of social injustice is social class, lip service is paid but the 2 prime demographics as taught in schools & tertiary education are race & gender, NOT class. The bourgeoisie have always despised the white working class & this criticism is aimed directly @ the suffragettes & all bourgeois privileged groups.